Lulu is at 85% Pick/Ban rate

Eedat··5 votes·2,651 views

Higher than LeeSin. Higher than Graves. Higher than Lucian.

She also has a higher winrate than Graves LeeSin and a winrate thats about the same as Lucian.

I don't understand how "Lee Sin has a 42% pickrate in the jungle" makes it to the front page with 100+ upvotes while any discussion about Lulu is met with "she's fine xD" or "she's just good in the meta".

For comparison, LeeSin has a 65% pick/ban rate at a 49% win rate. Lulu has an 85% pick/ban rate at a 52% win rate.

Lulu is up to a 70% Ban Rate while the universally despised LeeSin is at 18%. This means almost FOUR TIMES as many players would rather play against a Lee than a Lulu

When do we accept that she is a huge problem? When do we accept that the 'Lethality/Assassin meta' is over and its not just "because Lulu is good against them"? Why can supports never be OP? Making you carries completely unkillable is good in every meta.

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Dreadlocks11 votes

Ahri Because some champions get to fly under the radar.

dunder kill3 votes

Janna

Slythion2 votes

Ahri Janna Amumu

were the holy trinity of "flying under the radar" but then mumu got knocked out due to s7 jungle changes. I wonder if his new passive will bring him back

Penns2 votes

Still not as broken as Lucian tho tbh lol

Slythion1 votes

tell that to the stats

personal opinions don't hold much relevance :p

Penns2 votes

According to http://lolalytics.com/champions/ he has almost the same pick/ban rate as Lulu and in Korea Lulu isnt banned at all while Luc still has over 40% pick rate and 10% ban rate there. I cant really judge Lulu cause shes always banned in my games but right now I legit just insta dodge when the enemy team gets Lucian..

Slythion2 votes

I stand corrected, I should've checked for myself before making that comment

I thought lulu had a wayyy higher ban rate/win rate. I'm still perma-banning her cuz she cucks most of my champ pool, and I can always rely on lucian to be banned by someone else :3

Penns2 votes

Well tbh I expected it to be higjer too. Maybe not win rate because "she isnt banned so I first time her" but ban rate.

Eedat1 votes

I really dont give a damn about the meta on the Korean server. None of us play there. It's literally irrelevant.

Lexyy2 votes

Are you sure it isn't 100% pick/ban rate?

I mean, yesterday it was 70%.... 8 mins ago 85%..... maybe it's 100% now.

Jbels1 votes

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Are you sure it isn't 100% pick/ban rate?

I mean, yesterday it was 70%.... 8 mins ago 85%..... maybe it's 100% now.

Problem with that, Lulu would have to appear in every single game to have a 100% pick/ban rate

Eedat4 votes

You're aware of the difference between pick/ban rate and ban rate. Acting clueless isn't a valid argument

Lexyy3 votes

You think you are the first to make a thread about Lulu pick/ban rate?

Anastaecia2 votes

Please cite sites and rank(s) when posting numbers. No where is anyone pick/banned this much except maybe in LCS.

As far as Lulu, she IS fine. She did NOT get a buff. The new meta made her and other enchanters come to the front. That's it. IN a month or two, the meta will shift again, and she and others will fall out of favor.

Eedat1 votes
Kaioko2 votes

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https://na.op.gg/champion/lulu/statistics/support

click the "trends" tab

Plat+

I can site at least 3 other "reputable" sites that don't agree with that ban rate.

Eedat1 votes

No you cant.

Champion.gg is straight up wrong. Everyone knows half the stats on that site arent even mathematically possible

Slythion1 votes

while I agree with the message, I honestly have yet to see a "she's fine" or "she's just strong in this meta" argument

every one of these posts mention this argument, but I've never seen someone actually believe in that reasoning

Athenes Lulu1 votes

At least Lee Sin takes skill to play, Lulu doesn't.

And maybe some super basic jungler knowledge.

RexSaur1 votes

"its just the mewta xd"

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