holy smokes that pbe axe to kindred's Q

The difference in damage from live will be: -5/-15/-25/-35/-45. To hit break even for live max lvl Q you will need 9 marks. Over the course of 5 Q's that is 225 less damage (~4AA or ~2Q's to match). Percent wise that is 25% off of the effective dps for Q. Each camp will take about 10 extra seconds, so a minute extra for the full jungle clear. Forget about getting your marks form early ganks with the damage nerf so the best route will be to target marked jungle camps. The extra time to clear your own camp plus the extra time you will have to take to invade the enemy jungle on the gamble of getting a mark means that if they are waiting for you, that will simply not be a winning fight. On the 5/17 pbe when it was just the scaling per level that was lower that was much more reasonable but taking off of the base and scaling is doubling down on a nerf. I think that is what a kneejerk change is and there have been multiple riot post saying that you want to avoid doing that. It really feels like you don't know the champ well or how to move forward with it.