Ludens Echo killed Heimer

dEAdbUs··3 votes·776 views

**Pls write an answer before downvote. I'm playing Heimer for long time, and know him good, but I'm not sure about you. **

Ludens Echo ended Heimers playability era, because now any AP champ can clear his turrets. He had some significant counters like Ziggs or Syndra, because they are able to kill Heimer turrets fast and easy, but now anyone can do that.

Bye Heimer? ='(

21 Comments

stealthfox943 votes

uh..... no he's still really frustrating to lane against. Even if you do quickly clear his towers. He falls off late game sure but he's a legit lane bully.

dEAdbUs1 votes

I have 700 games with Heim in rankeds. I can say he's not scary if you do not stupidly enter in his turrets.

Skia Asteri2 votes

Build item 3060 then, it gives his turrets bonus MR with the aura.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Not anymore D:

dEAdbUs1 votes

I dont think this will help.

3tyson2 votes

do you know heimi can place turrets further from eachother

also do you know i wil be 8 - 0 - 0 by the time you finaly got your ludens echo if your not knowinng;/playing seriouse counter to my ding donger

dEAdbUs1 votes

8-0? Rly? It must be magic. Who you gonna kill so many times?

He can place but not always (Ludens AOE is huge). Especially in teamfights when Heimi wants to attack whole team with 3 turrets, not just one.

3tyson1 votes

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8-0? Rly? It must be magic. Who you gonna kill so many times?

He can place but not always (Ludens AOE is huge). Especially in teamfights when Heimi wants to attack whole team with 3 turrets, not just one.

that means you dont place your turrets until the iniate goes off or place a max of 1 turret before someone iniates

jjookkeerr1 votes

his era was ended whem riot overnerfed him and removed the minion aura buff from item 3060

dEAdbUs1 votes

I dont think that Banner was really important. Now sure about nerfs, he was rly strong before them, but now he's suffering in this meta.

Erockandroll1 votes

the problem with that is, it has to be a champ who would build Luden's echo. (and not every mage will build that)

If a champ tried to build Luden's for the sole purpose of countering Heimer, that takes them a good deviation from what they want to build and their over all team presence suffers.

Basically, Luden's doesn't mean every mage counters heimer.

dEAdbUs1 votes

Basically it means.

Ludens is AP item #1, here is proof for you: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=item-popularity&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=platinum It's more popular than Zhonia or Raba.

3TWarrior1 votes

ludens is practically required on mages now...max ap champs such as veigar or Cassiopeia can add up to 300 damage to their already high burst and champs that don't do significantly well still receive an extra 115 bonus damage IF YOU HAVE NO OTHER AP

ziggs gets ludens up in seconds, same with Xerath(though xerath benefits most on his W or E since they're targeted)

lol, nidalee with ludens, highly mobile and max AP assassination though idk how AD nidalee is doing

ludens also has really high AOE

Malix Farwin1 votes

He is still playable and he does need counterplay to his hurrdurr turrets so thats a good thing.

dEAdbUs1 votes

He has more than enough counterplay, especially in tank meta, where every champ have 3k hp and couple stuns.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

Forgot I start the game with 3300 gold. If this is actually happening to you, you should just switch with your top laner once they get ludens. Honestly you should have won the lane by then anyway with Heimer.

dEAdbUs1 votes

So what? Many champions have good early game, while Ludens totally destroying his mid/late doesnt matter how good Heimer was. Btw now toplaners are tanky and they can easily stay vs Heimer. Early resists will make **anyone ** tanky enough so Heimer won't kill him.

After laning phase there will come midlaner with Ludens, and finish Heimer.

Maple Crusader1 votes

He's not dead enough.

Lugg1 votes

Yeah, I guess that is why he has the 7th highest winning percentage in the game. Go sell crazy somewhere else, no one is buying it here.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Did you know that heimer turrets proc Ludens? Now go forth and abuse the OP that is the donger.

Because FYI, he's absurdly strong right now.

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