@Meddler any changes planned for Shyvana?

Deus Imperator·1/26/2017, 2:34:03 PM·2 votes·1,558 views
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While i appreciated making her ult immune to CC,the removal of Strength of the ages,nerfing her passive armor/MR and removing her burnout bonus damage against jungle monsters makes her be in a very bad spot right now

a power farming jungler that cant even power farm anymore? what kind of reasoning is that?

meanwhile LeeSin Vi Zac Hecarim can do a healthy first clear, gank ALOT better than shyvana and got a usable keystone

any input on this? sorry if this feels like a QQ topic

15 Comments

SwiftKitten881/26/2017, 2:42:06 PM2 votes

um i just checked her win rate... she is at 50-52% win rate and does not drop below 50 in any elo.

as a nid main i and understand your hatred for the new jungle changes... but nid has a 41% win rate.. and shv has a 50. so i dont think shyv is the one that needs a buff...

and no adding 29 more hp to nid and 10 more heal didnt come close to even making up for the jungle nerf that also went live in 7.2.. let alone BUFFING her.

Scruberz1/26/2017, 3:11:34 PM1 votes

Can't powerfarm? lul ok

Dominick Destine1/26/2017, 3:14:57 PM1 votes

That's a cute drawing/caption.

I now have it.

Darth Sidiouss1/26/2017, 3:17:36 PM1 votes

She was oppressive af and one of my first ban choices for the last two patches ina row [slayer-jinx-unamused] I couldn't make out if she was a tank / or skirmisher ... like an identity crisis..

DunkinNoobs1/26/2017, 3:34:48 PM1 votes

Making the jungle harder is in her favor since she clears better than her opponents.

Kirius Dark1/26/2017, 3:45:17 PM1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2405010652/231273656?tab=builds She's "bad" for you because you're completing your level 2 jungle item before double daggers.

Open machete (not talisman) then get double dagger and boots on the first back to have fast autos and many more machete procs to keep clearing fast and able to take dragon at level 4.

Also your masteries for her are atrocious as is your skill ups (taking Q 3rd.... wtf no).

If you open red buff start Q level 1 then W E. If you open blue buff start W then Q E. Q is so strong with the machete buff to double tap its' on hit bonus damage to monsters and bonus lifesteal. Stormraiders to keep her on top of champs especially with bloodrazor and titantic hydra procs to blow things up fast mid game, while the 12 points go into the resolve tree. You're going full glass cannon

On top of this you're full attack speed runes yet not even taking machete

You're basically doing every single thing wrong with this champ's first two clears then cry about her being weak

AIQ2/8/2017, 11:53:16 PM1 votes

I agree 100%, her initial rework was ultimately a stats nerf for a utility buff, IE her E and unstoppable ult. Shyvana's overall gold value is down due to the loss of her passive (unless you get 4+ drags 3 is only like a -200g diff not much).

The reason she was seen as super op was simple the power of the jungle and how much gold you could get very quickly, bringing her to her mid game status where her huge Q nerf was no longer a factor. Shyvana has a solid mid/mid late game, but suffers if her team dies a lot since she has no early game or even early mid game power to counter it, or b she gets invaded by the jung+ a laner.

My biggest gripe is not that Shyvana should be insane and oppressive, she needs to have weaknesses, but I want to compare only 2 champions. Shyvana- Supposed to be tanky/deal dmg/ poor ganks and power farm/ nice AOE if they are grouped/ reliable but dodge able Initiate.

Hecarim- Is tanky, Deals a decent amount of dmg, good ganks, good farm, good AOE, if grouped, good gap close, nice mobility, reliable ult that is hard to dodge, sustain, good escape, scales well at all stages. Basically all that shyv does + some

Lee sin- can go dmg or tank we'll say tank for now, so Tanky, deals decent dmg, great ganks , great farm/sustain doing it, no AOE, high mobilty, hard to use but reliable initiate/disengage/pick tool, sustain, great escape, scales great early to mid not so much late, but becomes more of a tank.

You can say apples and oranges, but in all seriousness these champions do everything Shyvana does + more yet she gets nerfed and lee gets buffed and hec remains unchanged.

Side note more nerfs to masteries incoming, guess who uses almost all of them. Hint? It's a dragon there now you have a 50/50chance. Shyvana gets more indirect nerfs than Sejuani

AIQ2/8/2017, 11:54:22 PM1 votes

Ironscale Shyvana is a horrible skin BTW not as bad as Boneclaw, but bad ...why do i own it lol.

Proxy3452/8/2017, 11:56:43 PM1 votes

She's in a really good spot for top lane now though,she can outfarm the enemy very easily then just roam to gank other lanes.

midnight oil242/8/2017, 11:57:48 PM1 votes

You expected a decent gank, but it was me, DIO!

AIQ2/9/2017, 12:41:12 AM1 votes

Just wait for her VGU, then Darkflame is gonna be....

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