Reasons Why Team Builder Should Be Brought Back

SikhRS··38 votes·1,344 views

If you agree with what I'm about to say or just agree with the concept, could you do a favor for me and the rest of the community and upvote this to gain more attention? I hope I will be able to convince everyone why team builder should be brought back.

  1. Everyone gets the exact role and champ they want. We all know Blind Pick is an absolute mess. Haven't we all seen people argue over roles? Did you ever want to play a role, but someone already called it? Don't forget the auto lockers who lock in even if someone had called a role first. Getting the role you want has a better chance in Draft which I really think is fantastic when wanting to ranked. Yet norms are used for practice by many players. Say someone has time for 1-2 games and wants to practice mid (which seems to be a really contested choice) or any other lane. Chances are he'll have to compete for it in Blind and may not get in Draft. He'll dodge or be forced to play a role/champ that he wasn't in the mood for. Team Builder is an option where everyone can play exactly what they want.

  2. Time I'll admit, Blind is a pretty quick way to get into a norm. It's useful if you don't care too much about getting a specific role, but not very practical if you want to practice or just have fun with one certain certain contested champ or role. Now, say with a straight face that "Draft doesn't take too long." You just can't do it. Aren't we all guilty of looking at our phones during banning and champ select? I'm NOT saying Draft (also called Dynamic me thinks) is bad, just not fully practical when you wanna get some practice in on a specific champ or role in norms. The champ you wanna practice with just might end up banned. Again, what you gonna do? Dodge? Play something you weren't in the mood for? You might have other champs you wanna play, but they weren't the champs you were really wanting to play.

  3. Team Comp You get the team comp you want! Ever end up in a draft with all AD champs? Personally, it doesn't metter to me in a norm, but some people might like having more options. Maybe you wanna top malphite and can possibly get a yas mid? Options tend to not be a bad thing.

  4. Team and Champ Freedom This point is an edit I'm making the day after I posted this and is another reason why Team Builder should be brought back. Hasn't anyone here wanted to have fun with something off meta in a norm? Maybe an AP Sion or AP Gnar? Remember in team builder where you not only selected your champ and lane, but you also had to select your role as in Assassin, Mage, or Tank? Well in Team Builder, for the most part everyone KNEW what they were getting and had the option to stay with their team or leave. It benefitted both the people who wanted to play seriously and those who wanted to troll around. I'll give you guys a personal example. Occasionally, I liked to troll around with Yi support (note: I KEPT it in norms Team Builder and have never played it as support since). Everyone knew what they would get, so they could decide to kick if they wanted a real support or accept me if they didn't care or were curious. In one game, I met two really cool people on my team, we had a ton of fun that game, and we even won xD I'm still friends with them today. Again, for those serious players, they had the option to kick or not team up with people they didn't want to play with while those wishing to fool around were matched with similar teammates or those who didn't care. This was reasonable and good since those who wished to mess around could do it with the permission of their team.

Quick note: People might argue that you can practice what you want in bots, but practicing in bots is not challenging enough. To get an idea of a champ, I love to practice in bots or a custom, but that's what it is good for: getting an idea. For example, jungling in bots is going to be way different than jungling in norms. Enemies won't contest you, your team should generally have no trouble in their lanes, and you have free access to an entire map of monsters. Is practicing a champ only in bots gonna prepare you to play it in ranked? Probably not.

Suggestions: I realize that adding in team builder could slow down traffic and cause higher que times. I'm just an average player, but here is an idea that could be worth thinking about. If bringing back team builder would cause a problem with wait times, why not create a new mode that merges blind and team builder? Instead of choosing which champ AND lane you want before queing, just choose ONE lane/fill. Once you enter que and hit accept, you can end up in a similar screen as blind and enjoy from there.

24 Comments

ThatH1N15 votes

I agree +1

SikhRS3 votes

Thank you c:

Azelder3 votes

Finally, someone with common sense. Riot got rid of TB for the new stupid shit. They only got rid of it because of pro players and the whole Esports. They could give 2 fucks about their majority players. As long as they are making money, they just don't give a rats ass. They cater to pro players, taking in all of their suggestions, and bullshit to suit THEM, not us. Riot is a very biased, bullshit company that went from a great company, to a bad one. I've spent well over $600.00 on this League, and I still get shit on by them. I'm no longer spending a dime on this company until they learn to focus more on the majority of players compared to their 1% of pro players. Not only that but Riot's investors have stepped in and flashed some money around and now they get to call the shots. AND, the brought on GhostCrawler who is a piece of shit and I even called him out on twitter. Riot has gone down hill. They've taken away sooooo many good features and options from this game and for what.. nothing but money. Typical fuckin' corporation. Let's fight to get League back to how it used to be. It used to be fun. It used to make me happy. I used to play all the time. Now, it makes me mad. I seriously stress over how bad the community has become. Riot is garbage. I'll fight to get LoL back to its roots.

LegendaryJTeam3 votes

Totally Agree. I miss teambuilder so much. Not having to worry about your favorite champs getting banned and getting the role you want is so worth the extra time to wait for a full team if you ask me.

SikhRS2 votes

Thank you brother :D

CREEPERTON3 votes

RETURN THE TEAM BUILDER!!!!

SikhRS2 votes

Bump :c I have no idea why some people would downvote. I think I received one like seconds after I posted which means the one who did it didn't even take the time to read item 3073

DracosKasu2 votes

Well they could actually make team builder into the new normal mode, generally people pick whatever they want there.

SikhRS1 votes

Yup yup :D

SikhRS3 votes

Urrrrg someone downvoted after you upvoted >.> No explanations for these downvotes. This is why we can't have nice things item 3070 item 3151 item 3070

Leetri2 votes

Personally, I didn't have a single queue under 10 minutes with team builder. One time it took over an hour to get into a game because people kept on kicking me for picking Ezreal mid. Usually though it's you waiting 10-20 minutes for a single support that's not a troll pick. With the new draft mode I get 1 minute queues. Again, personal experience.

Amoc2 votes

The queues were too long for Team Builder because of how narrow the specifications for queuing were. These long queues led to people abandoning TB, which made queues even longer. Yes, I can understand that a lot of you folks enjoyed it because you could goof around with exactly what you wanted, but you are a very niche group and Riot obviously felt their resources were better directed elsewhere.

SikhRS1 votes

You're right that Team Builder was known to be frustrating to those unwilling to wait (but rewarding for those willing to wait), and you're right that the community consists of other people that are not like us. IF in fact bringing back Team Builder would cost too many resources, I think the suggestion I provided would be a way to make not just Norms better but everyone happy as well. In this case, I think Riot should combine Blind and Team Builder to where everyone selects a single lane or fill before going to que. It seems similar to draft, but in this mood, there are no bans and everyone will more likely get the champ they want and the exact lane they want.

Amoc1 votes

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IF in fact bringing back Team Builder would cost too many resources, I think the suggestion I provided would be a way to make not just Norms better but everyone happy as well.

No really, because you're essentially just suggesting what already exists in the new queuing system but reducing the number of options everyone has. Instead being able to pick two roles and get one of them, now you'll be restricted to your primary choice and "Fill" (ie. support). I'm not sure how that solves anything.

SikhRS1 votes

I'm suggesting that Riot should combine the best parts of the two modes for Normals we have now into one mode while leaving behind the negative parts.

Blind- Good parts: It's pretty fast to get in a game, and there are no Bans. Bad Parts: Someone can call a lane you wanted first, or you can call a lane first but someone can just autolock into that role anyway. Also, arguments over lanes/roles in Blind champ select are not uncommon. If the team is already flaming each other in champ select, the game won't become as enjoyable as it should be.

Draft- Good Part: You're more likely to get the lane you want without contest. Bad Parts: You're not guaranteed to get the exact lane you want. I'll provide a personal example: I'm a support main but also a jungle secondary. If I enter que with jung as my primary choice and support as my secondary choice, I'll most likely end up as support anyway. It's not practical in a norm if I want to get better at jungle. I could just not list myself as a support, but then I could end up in a lane other than jungle. Another bad part is that the champ you want to practice with/play could get banned or chosen by someone else on either team.

Suggested Mode- Be able to get in a game quickly, no bans, and get into the lane you want. I noticed an idea on another board post for those who want to fill but not support. Implement a check box system for the fill option where lanes and the adc and support option can be checked or unchecked.

"Instead being able to pick two roles and get one of them, now you'll be restricted to your primary choice and "Fill" (ie. support). I'm not sure how that solves anything."

I'm doing the complete opposite of restricting players. We can only play one role anyway. Instead of having to pick two roles and ending up with one of them, my suggestion is that we pick the exact role we want. Fill is an option players can have is they don't care which role they want to get placed with. The check box option can fix the problem if those who wish to fill don't want to support.

Amoc1 votes

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I'm doing the complete opposite of restricting players. We can only play one role anyway. Instead of having to pick two roles and ending up with one of them, my suggestion is that we pick the exact role we want. Fill is an option players can have is they don't care which role they want to get placed with. The check box option can fix the problem if those who wish to fill don't want to support.

Well then you're back to the awful/broken queue times. Unfortunately certain roles (ie. solo mid) are FAR more popular than others, so unless you're queuing support or jungle you're going to wait, and wait, and wait. That's obviously a system that the overwhelming majority of League players have no interest in.

SikhRS1 votes

I disagree that the community wouldn't like it.

Answer to the awful que concerns of those unwilling to wait: Suppose someone who wants a faster que time would be fine with mid or top. On the fill checkbox, uncheck everything other than mid or top. Chances are that that person would probably get top, but more options = less time. If that person REALLY wants mid, he'd be willing to wait for it since he would have more trouble getting it anyway in Blind (which is nonexistent in this scenario) or Draft.

If the heavy majority of people wanted to pick only one lane/role rather than the multiple options (which definitely would speed up que) they have, I agree that the que time would be a bit longer. But that would mean the heavy majority of people preferred the concept of Team Builder where you were forced to choose just one lane.

I would also like to point out that EVEN IF this mode ended up with a lengthier que time than draft (which I doubt), it would still take less time to get into the game than draft because of draft's ban phases and champ select.

Maximum Morde2 votes

No team builder. Team builder is heresy.

Subtweet2 votes

I agree with everything in the OP, I miss being able to choose my team comps. Despite that queues may have took a while, I still prefer waiting over dynamic and blind where you might not get your role or champion.

SikhRS1 votes

It seems comments from time to time keep the post more visible. I think this will be my last unless someone else comments :/ For all my typing, we're only at +5 at the moment.

Toastycripples1 votes

Swag

SikhRS1 votes

Oiiii we got 27 Upvotes :D I'm glad this has taken some interest. Hopefully we'll be able to get some recognition from Riot if this keeps up.

SikhRS1 votes

32 Upvotes. Maybe we can get to 50? #Make Normals Great AgainAzir

SikhRS1 votes

It's such a shame how a useful mode that gave us the freedom to choose any champ and lane we wanted to play got removed. An even bigger shame that we haven't collected enough upvotes as we should. All attention is on the stupid April Fools event. Anyway, this is probably my last bump unless I notice a huge difference tomorrow. Thank you all who supported. We tried. Amumu item 3070

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