People keep saying "pre-rework champions have been deletted and won't ever come back"

Beatrice falls··2 votes·659 views

But as we've seen it, they brought back some old deletted items in Nexus Blitz

Doesn't it mean they maybe also kept the older versions of some champions somewhere ? I mean I've never seen a company completely deletting something and never looking back

(and I secretly hope for a "retro league" game mode)

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ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Old champions have gameplay that is toxic or badly designed in and of itself. Items can have different impacts depending on what a game mode is. It’s why there’s no Doran’s items in ARAM for instance.

Pre-rework champions aren’t coming back.

Beatrice falls1 votes

I mean ok it might be toxic, but what about a fun mode ? In URF for instance, some things are "toxic" in the sense that some champions are utterly broken, and this is what makes the game mode fun

(I miss Sion and Galio [zombie-nunu-bummed] )

MYSTlCFLOW2 votes

[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FbEtnjIt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-08T15:58:23.145+0000)

Old champions have gameplay that is toxic or badly designed in and of itself. Items can have different impacts depending on what a game mode is. It’s why there’s no Doran’s items in ARAM for instance.

Pre-rework champions aren’t coming back.

shutup, I love old zac. don't make a generalist statement that affects my zac

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

The minor updates they did are not the same as full VGUs. We are discussing the full VGUs.

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FbEtnjIt,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-08-08T17:41:05.007+0000)

The minor updates they did are not the same as full VGUs. We are discussing the full VGUs.

the title is "pre rework", I guess thanks for clarifying but never once would I have been able to guess that you and the owner were discussing only full VGU's

MYSTlCFLOW3 votes

riot did say that they don't have old champion databases or anything cause they simply update them

Galiö2 votes

I think assets for items are easier to dig up or mimic but I also dont believe they removed the old champion assets and just use it as an excuse.

Oleandervine2 votes

Why would a company waste time and space to hoard old game data for characters who's kit proved to be problematic or obsolete for the game? They're the equivalent of cat skeletons in a hoarder's house - they have no reason to be keeping them.

OtterlyLost2 votes

They've already stated on multiple occasions that they couldn't bring back old champions, even if they wanted to. The assets for them have already been deleted and they dont keep them on a separate database.

Get Ogre Here1 votes

Riot has mentioned that they will never have one of those modes (although they admit it would be cool to have) because they delete all the champ data. Also even if they remove an item it's a lot easier to re-make than a champion so I can see them having re-made the items.

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