Procs on-hit effects on it's splash damage, no active function. ( you can't click it to do damage )
So it should build out of 
+ new on-hit item OR 
Meaning less AD and more AS/on-hit ability, for waveclear purposes!
Yay?
The5lacker1 votesSo you want it to be broken and lose functionality, got it.
YOU BEEN WARNED1 votesIt's not broken, cleave proc to secondary targets deals 60% -> 100% of total damage. This should apply to on-hit effects as well, it is still an expensive offensive item with above average stats; so bruisers who get it have to be ahead otherwise they are sacrificing a big deal of defense.
The5lacker1 votesOne, on-hit effects don't scale down. Ever.
Two, on-hit effects are balanced around the fact that they aren't applied everywhere at once. Giving everyone Shyvana's dragon Q is a staggeringly bad idea that can and will have a number of unforeseen consequences.
YOU BEEN WARNED1 votesOne, they should be programmed that way if the idea is to be taken into consideration.
Two, URF was a result of an idea with a number of unforseen consequences; besides this is not giving everyone shyvanna's dragon Q because that one is an auto attack reset + 2 autos & realistically you won't apply it everywhere unless the enemy has a lot of melee champions that let you do what you want.
Why would you build this item over a 
if you're an on-hit bruiser ? If you're buying it, you're buying it on top of the botrk/
. Which is a squishy/carryish build style with clear strengths & weaknesses.
Sure, it will give on-hitters more damage late game. But it comes at the cost of a defensive item slot, something on-hit champions highly need.
DisasterSola1 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FZFruYeA,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-04-02T00:31:21.062+0000)
Procs on-hit effects on it's splash damage, no active function. ( you can't click it to do damage )
So it should build out of
Meaning less AD and more AS/on-hit ability, for waveclear purposes!
Yay?
Disagree.
Tiamat+stinger= Hydras tooth Hydras tooth: 3400g +50AD +40% ASP +20% CDR Unique passive: Rapid cleave: each attack spawns 3 shockwaves (cleave size) with do 25% damage per shockwave to surrounding enemies. Unique active: Cleave: Same as cleave
Tiamat+keepers armguard= Hydra scale guantlet Hydra scale gauntlet: 3150g +45 AD +45 Armor Unique passive: Gain 2.5% of your max health as AD Unique active: Cleave
YOU BEEN WARNED1 votesimo the first item could work, but would feel clunky. ( because AS+CDR can often be conflicting )
The second one.. Where did the AP go? And how/why are you getting AD out of an AP tank item? lol.
DisasterSola1 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FZFruYeA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-04-02T01:47:11.987+0000)
imo the first item could work, but would feel clunky. ( because AS+CDR can often be conflicting )
The second one.. Where did the AP go? And how/why are you getting AD out of an AP tank item? lol.
The AP is converted into the passive ;3
YOU BEEN WARNED1 votesWell I'm sure what you mean isn't an AP -> HP item, but that would be a cool mechanic now that I think of it.
DisasterSola1 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FZFruYeA,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-04-02T05:29:40.324+0000)
Well I'm sure what you mean isn't an AP -> HP item, but that would be a cool mechanic now that I think of it.
It would bringing back atmas impaler... But give it a much more useful build path. Generally, the champions who rush tiamat also at least slight AP ratios. And the entire reason why atmas was never bought by people, was because it was armor+crit. Very champions would benefit from such a strange stat combo.
Also, keepers armguard is a great defensive item :3