can we please get an AD morellos?

lolipopevelynn··3 votes·598 views

with sated devourer Lifesteal/spell vamp is completely out of control. you guys have also removed Grevious wounds from ALOT of AD's kits and MF is next on the list.

can we get something to combat this BS sustain problem you let get out of control AGAIN?

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Snowball4u1 votes

The reason its been removed is because say its mf vs ashe Ashe has: ie boots phantom blood thirster Mf has: ie boots phantom, bf, vamparic

Who wins? Mf Why? Ashe doesnt heal as much as mf..

Snowball4u1 votes

Also dont include the fact that mf is crap right now... I know she loses to everyone unless she is far ahead.

Linna Excel1 votes

Why would ashe rush a BT over an IE?

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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The reason its been removed is because say its mf vs ashe Ashe has: ie boots phantom blood thirster Mf has: ie boots phantom, bf, vamparic

Who wins? Mf Why? Ashe doesnt heal as much as mf..

ash wins because of her ult and because her Q steroid is stronger than MFs, what kind of question is that?

Snowball4u1 votes

The ult is actually a good point i didnt think of that, but otherwise mf would still win because she has insane more healing

McAllister1 votes

Upvoted for visibility, but I disagree. Riot needs to finish removing GW from the game so it can nerf lifesteal/spellvamp across the board.

67chrome1 votes

can we get something to combat this BS sustain problem you let get out of control AGAIN?

there's always summoner 14 Pretty solid summoner spell, really nice addition to any QWER burst, also handy to apply prior to a tank'n'spank fight if you want to cut back on hostile sustain.


there's also always: item 3075

  • reflects damage Before it's mitigated by armor.
  • acquiring 30% life-steal is incredibly difficult with current itemization to combat the 30% thorns assuming 100% armor penetration.
  • armor reduces life steal. A 100 damage attack with 20% life steal is 20 HP restored per hit. 50 damage via 50% damage reduction is 10.

It's pretty much impossible to life-steal off of thornmail. Largely due to the whole thorn damage reflected prior to being mitigated by the thorny-tank's armor. But since Thorns is magic damage: If you can raise your effective MR (after hostile penetrations) to equal their armor (after your armor penetrations), then 30% life steal will combat 30% thorns. Which is like, a 6-major item build deal in a game that sees an average of ~11k gold per player, which is more in the 3 major 3k items, 1k in boots, and 1k in the bank when a Nexus explodes.


Finally: There was an AD Morello equivalent in Ex Calling. It was horrible. The removed Ex Calling had a lower purchase rate than even Viktor's Augment: Death - I can't really see an AD grievous wounds item being all that useful either. Like, the old AD morello equivalent was 100% useless with Grievous Wounds being the only major attraction. Lower purchase rate than Viktor's Augment: Death. Not even all 4 of Viktor's items combined into 1 category, Ex Calling was purchased less often than 1 of 4 champion-specific items, and purchased less often than Rengar's Bonetootch Necklace. Back when Rengar actually had to decide if he wanted to buy it or not.

Think about what you're asking for here man.

Felixphaeton1 votes

How exactly is Sated Devourer breaking lifesteal? The phantom hit does no damage, which means you get no lifesteal from it, just the BotRK proc if you have it, and I would hardly say spell vamp from things like Diana passive are being broken by Sated Devourer.

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