Playing kindred some, she feels like a much more powerful kogmaw.

Paroe··2 votes·297 views

So can we change kogmaw? Give his Q and ult some crit scaling (like making his Q be ABLE to crit....? and making his ult interact with crit modifiers?), give him higher base MS in exchange for being immobile?

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MrHaZeYo1 votes

Lol I like how ppl think kog is weak.

Paroe1 votes

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Lol I like how ppl think kog is weak.

i never said he was. Im saying kindred feels like a more powerful version of him. She has everything he has and mobility for the most part. Also not saying kindred is ACTUALLY a better koggles, just that she feels it.

Riot seems to like giving marksman crit scalings lately, so why not give kogmaw some? (And a base MS buff... but thats just wishful thinking).

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Because kog is the definition of a hyper carry, he doesn't care if you squishy or tsnky.

He also doesn't need crit scaling cause he's a as based champ who builds some crit.

Paroe1 votes

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Because kog is the definition of a hyper carry, he doesn't care if you squishy or tsnky.

He also doesn't need crit scaling cause he's a as based champ who builds some crit.

Hes still a marksman. Pre-rework kindred was also an onhit AS champion like kogmaw. Post rework she has crit scalings to give her an incentive to buy standard marksman.

I see no reason why kogmaw couldnt get some crit scalings of his own?

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Difference is kog does max hp% n kindred did current hp%.

I personally think kog is fine, he's a immobile long range shredder

Paroe1 votes

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Difference is kog does max hp% n kindred did current hp%.

I personally think kog is fine, he's a immobile long range shredder

shrug Just wants. Riot wants marksman to crit after all, since its their classes defining item. It would make sense for kogmaw to utilize crit somehow in more places than an execute which doesnt really scale and isnt real crit.

Would definitely be cool if his ult got the damage increase from IE and could proc energize.

Sakuri Ono1 votes

While I can see some surface comparisons, I don't think one is necessarily a 'version' of the other.

Kindred's shredding powers are highly localized to a limited region. You can simply elect to team fight else where when she drops Wolf's Frenzy, then reengage once it's down. Or simply knock her out of the region with displacement. Kog'maw on the other hand brings his shred with him everywhere he goes and, in certain builds, can have it up practically 'on demand' late game. Making Kindred more about zone-control and Kog'maw more about mobile-artillery.

The same applies to their style of executions. Kindred's Mounting Dred can only focus on one low individual at a time, highlighting her lane-oriented emphasis. Where as Kog'Maw will always be getting his bonus damage per low health increase no matter if he's hit the target prior or not.

So overall while Kindred and Kog'maw are both marksman, the former is more designed to lean towards assassination as a secondary while the other one if more of a caster.

Different enough that I don't think the strength of one should call for improvements in the other by virtue of that alone. ^_^

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