Thx Riot from making my champion from a underpowered champ into perma banned into unplayable! cool

LL Justice··2 votes·2,355 views

Galio item 3070 https://gyazo.com/2574fb7e2deb400aa6ded74abe862c32 Before the buffs

Winrate 47.77% PlayRate 2.43% Rank 57/59 Overall Midlaners

https://gyazo.com/97446f936505a40b3230a3cf8d932a45 after buffs Winrate 53.16% Playrate 11.56% Rank 1/62

https://gyazo.com/9b9f0d2fd7574ef8a2eb4da6f202871d now Winrate 45.42% Playrate 2.15% Rank 57/58

Ye go ahead and ignore him now theres so many people you can message who puts a lot of time into the champion in the ladder who can help u make him better instead of throwing steroids at him then just gunning him down when he somehows becomes too strong yeah wonder why?

28 Comments

Sxoda2 votes

ya how do you think akali mains feel rn. Her winrate went as low as 36% being the lowest wr on any champion in a long long time.

Glîtchy1 votes

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ya how do you think akali mains feel rn. Her winrate went as low as 36% being the lowest wr on any champion in a long long time.

CertainlyT champ deserves to be garbage for a change

IronFiveSupport2 votes

It's because of pro play, if you ever see your champion in pro play expect it to be nerfed in 30 days. LCK can't get enough galio, they even used him support the other day.

Shonjl2 votes

What cha talking about? You are saying Riot doesn't just only do overbuffs and meganerfs? Ohh wait.....

Yeah jokes aside, you would think they woulda got the hint the first time he was ridiculous and not overbuff him again, seems they don't learn from their mistakes, or the mistakes of overnerfing.

Shiroe Okazaki2 votes

Sorry justice Senpai. I hope Galio gets fixed soon. He's my favorite mage because of his personality. "I fought a house once, I'm pretty sure I won"

ı Sona ı1 votes

Galio is fine, you are building him and rune'ing him wrong. Adjust your strategy, don't beg for the game to adjust to you.

[sona-playing]

Samsunger7 votes

Are you really trying to tell a master tier pro player that he's building his own champion wrong xD

ı Sona ı2 votes

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Are you really trying to tell a master tier pro player that he's building his own champion wrong xD

I'm saying that he's failing to adjust. Expecting something to work every time is folly, adjust as scenario dictates.

LL Justice5 votes

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I'm saying that he's failing to adjust. Expecting something to work every time is folly, adjust as scenario dictates.

i guess faker and chovy are shit cuz they failed to adjust aswell what bunch of shitty players galio is still fine

Alzon1 votes

Please don’t feed the trolls

ı Sona ı1 votes

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i guess faker and chovy are shit cuz they failed to adjust aswell what bunch of shitty players galio is still fine

Why do you have to be shitty to lose with a character? Why does a character have to be shitty if you lose with it? Sometimes you outplay yourself by being unable to adjust to the scenario as is needed, rather sticking to what you know even though doing so may not be the best course of action.

hrooza dota 1 votes

why a character is fine when its win rate and use rate even with mains and good players is bad?

theres point where you have to back up claims such as X champion is fine or not

Eedat1 votes

.....what?

Teslyn2 votes

yeah the silver told the master tier player.. get gud.

LL Justice2 votes

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Galio is fine, you are building him and rune'ing him wrong. Adjust your strategy, don't beg for the game to adjust to you.

[sona-playing]

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Shiroe Okazaki1 votes

Does full tank work? I'm just curious. Although its probably the least fun even if it would turn out good

Frontline Fury2 votes

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Galio is fine, you are building him and rune'ing him wrong. Adjust your strategy, don't beg for the game to adjust to you.

[sona-playing]

Are you insane? Galio is BARELY playable when perfectly runed - and he has only ONE rune he can actually use, or he is dead weight. That is NOT fine - he depends on aftershock to even be considered a champion.

"Fine" would mean he could use several and still find success. "Fine" would mean more than just the very best of the best players in the world could succeed on him.

Don't get me wrong, i hold no love for Galio after seeing him picked EVERY SINGLE GAME for two months. But as it stands, he's even less viable than already niche picks like Trundle, or even Kayle.

When was the last time you saw Trundle played? When was the last time you saw anyone play Kayle? ARAMs and ARurf doesn't count.

ı Sona ı1 votes

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Are you insane? Galio is BARELY playable when perfectly runed - and he has only ONE rune he can actually use, or he is dead weight. That is NOT fine - he depends on aftershock to even be considered a champion.

"Fine" would mean he could use several and still find success. "Fine" would mean more than just the very best of the best players in the world could succeed on him.

Don't get me wrong, i hold no love for Galio after seeing him picked EVERY SINGLE GAME for two months. But as it stands, he's even less viable than already niche picks like Trundle, or even Kayle.

When was the last time you saw Trundle played? When was the last time you saw anyone play Kayle? ARAMs and ARurf doesn't count.

I play Kayle. OP champ is OP.

and he has only ONE rune he can actually use

No. You are no longer being considered as a valid participant of this conversation for this silly statement.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Frontline Fury2 votes

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I play Kayle. OP champ is OP.

No. You are no longer being considered as a valid participant of this conversation for this silly statement.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

"You did not conform with my beliefs therefore you can no longer be part of any conversations with me."

How about explaining why you think i am wrong (and providing examples that you are right) so that, if nothing else, you can prove you know what you are talking about?

Don't start a discussion on a forum dedicated to debate if you have no interest in debate. If all you want to do is write, then write into notepad.

I'm genuinely curious what keystone rune is viable on Galio other than Aftershock. I never, ever see anyone use anything else on him.

ı Sona ı1 votes

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"You did not conform with my beliefs therefore you can no longer be part of any conversations with me."

How about explaining why you think i am wrong (and providing examples that you are right) so that, if nothing else, you can prove you know what you are talking about?

Don't start a discussion on a forum dedicated to debate if you have no interest in debate. If all you want to do is write, then write into notepad.

I'm genuinely curious what keystone rune is viable on Galio other than Aftershock. I never, ever see anyone use anything else on him.

Because you can't understand why the below sentence is wrong is why you are no longer valid in this conversation. There is no redemption for you.

He has only ONE rune he can actually use

Frontline Fury2 votes

[{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FNzKG9k8,comment-id=00010002000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-21T08:55:47.168+0000)

Because you can't understand why the below sentence is wrong is why you are no longer valid in this conversation. There is no redemption for you.

I'm still waiting to hear what other keystones are viable on Galio. Well?

ı Sona ı1 votes

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I'm still waiting to hear what other keystones are viable on Galio. Well?

How about you tell me which ones aren't viable instead. With reasons.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Frontline Fury1 votes

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How about you tell me which ones aren't viable instead. With reasons.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Press the attack could hypothetically work, but in any situation it would be useful Electrocute would be ten times better and Aftershock a hundred times superior. The precision tree only has ONE good rune for Galio - Bloodline: Tenacity.

Lethal tempo? Are you fucking serious? On a mage tank that doesn't build a single basic attack modifier?

Fleet footwork is actually really, really good against poky ranged mages. It can help you sustain both in and outside lane, and it grants you a backloaded movement speed boost that can help you disengage after dashing into an enemy. It also scales extremely well with AP. Unfortunately it grants you ZERO benefit in combat and doesn't help you deal damage in any way - your taunt channel also nullifies it's movement speed boost if you're not using boots of swiftness, which means you'll have to adopt a hit-and-run playstyle rather than a front-line tank playstyle just for picking this one rune.

New conqueror is garbage on Galio. Old Conqueror would actually be better, since you could stack it on minions. Galio can use AD pretty well and the true damage would apply to his spells. New conqueror is something Galio can't really efficiently stack (unless his passive provides 2 stacks?) - conqueror would be fully stack AFTER he has used his combo, which is usually when he either kills his opponent or backs off. Too little, too late - Galio plays more like a burst mage than a sustained damage dealer. Of course, if you go full CDR / tank it's a different matter entirely. But even then Aftershock provides you more in every way and synergizes better with any items you build.

Electrocute is a niche you can only use efficiently in URF and rarely anywhere else. it could hypothetically work against squishy champions you might be able to burst down such as Lux, Ziggs or Katarina. The domination tree has some really good runes for Galio - all the three top row runes are great on him, Ghost poro can be good if you like having more map awareness and Ravenous hunter is excellent on tank galio running sunfire cape + thornmail.

Dark harvest is god awful on him. You'll rarely be able to drop your lane opponent(s) low enough to stack it, and later in the game chances are you're dying first in teamfights.

Picking predator on Galio is also terrible because his ult makes it irrelevant.

Hail of blades Galio is also god awful as you wouldn't really benefit from it unless you buy titanic hydra, which you shouldn't be doing on Galio in the first place.

Arcane coment will have a really hard time actually hitting opponents. You can't proc it often as you have no way to efficiently reset it's cooldown.

Summon aery is generally terrible because you only have one spell you can use on allies, and if you want to deal more damage to enemies your cooldowns are so long even arcane comet is better. The sorcery tree gives you access to wonderful runes for any tank, but chances are you'd be better off with it as a secondary keystone as you only really want two rows here - manaflow band and convergence. The rest are very nearly useless on you, with the exception of gathering storm.

Phase rush? On a champion that slows/self-roots himself when casting all of his spells? Could be useful against champions you REALLY don't want to remain in melee range with, but chances are Aftershock will help you prevent them from pursuing you in the first place.

Grasp of the undying COULD be viable against champions like Cho'gath, but Galio rarely enters melee range if he doesn't think he can bully his lane opponent.. Aftershock is usually what lets him gain lane dominance against squishies as they can't retaliate once he lands his dash on them because he's so tanky, and will remain viable post-laning phase. Grasp doesn't. The resolve tree grants you access to the most valuable runes a tank could ever wish for - EVERY SINGLE rune here is great on Galio. You could pick ANY combination of the minor keystones and they'll be efficient on you, maybe with the exception of revitalize.

Aftershock is a spell you Galio can proc on three of his four spells. It's damage scales with both health and AP, and grants you a bunch of front-loaded resistances that synergize perfectly with your W. While it has a long cooldown, so do you - Galio rarely sticks around for extended skirmishes as he plays more like a burst mage that all-ins and either drops his opponent low on his initial rotation of spells or backs off and plays safe for the rest of the laning phase if he fails to do so.

Guardian is only remotely viable on support Galio and even then Aftershock would be superior in every possible situation since it provides you everything you need as a support tank. The cooldown is far too long to be worth the meagre benefit it provides.

Glacial touch could hypothetically be OK as a support, but chances are the enemy will just turn and kill you rather than run away when you proc it. You do not have the bulk or the damage to be a threat wielding this. Inspiration has some really good runes for any champion but is extremely situational. Magical footwear is always great for someone that likes laning safely until they can ult, either of the three middle row runes are wonderful all-around and Galio can use the three bottom ones efficiently and effectively.

Kleptomancy is like a riskier grasp of the undying. It's easier to proc, but if the enemy laner can all-in you you're going to lose so much health you have to back after trying to proc it.

Spellbook could work, technically. Just like it could technically work on Draven. You CAN use it, but chances are there's another keystone out there that would synergize with your kit a million times better, granting you both increased survivability, utility and damage. Galio don't really have a lot of summoner spells he can utilize effectively.

Did i skip any?

ı Sona ı1 votes

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Press the attack could hypothetically work, but in any situation it would be useful Electrocute would be ten times better and Aftershock a hundred times superior. The precision tree only has ONE good rune for Galio - Bloodline: Tenacity.

Lethal tempo? Are you fucking serious? On a mage tank that doesn't build a single basic attack modifier?

Fleet footwork is actually really, really good against poky ranged mages. It can help you sustain both in and outside lane, and it grants you a backloaded movement speed boost that can help you disengage after dashing into an enemy. It also scales extremely well with AP. Unfortunately it grants you ZERO benefit in combat and doesn't help you deal damage in any way - your taunt channel also nullifies it's movement speed boost if you're not using boots of swiftness, which means you'll have to adopt a hit-and-run playstyle rather than a front-line tank playstyle just for picking this one rune.

New conqueror is garbage on Galio. Old Conqueror would actually be better, since you could stack it on minions. Galio can use AD pretty well and the true damage would apply to his spells. New conqueror is something Galio can't really efficiently stack (unless his passive provides 2 stacks?) - conqueror would be fully stack AFTER he has used his combo, which is usually when he either kills his opponent or backs off. Too little, too late - Galio plays more like a burst mage than a sustained damage dealer. Of course, if you go full CDR / tank it's a different matter entirely. But even then Aftershock provides you more in every way and synergizes better with any items you build.

Electrocute is a niche you can only use efficiently in URF and rarely anywhere else. it could hypothetically work against squishy champions you might be able to burst down such as Lux, Ziggs or Katarina. The domination tree has some really good runes for Galio - all the three top row runes are great on him, Ghost poro can be good if you like having more map awareness and Ravenous hunter is excellent on tank galio running sunfire cape + thornmail.

Dark harvest is god awful on him. You'll rarely be able to drop your lane opponent(s) low enough to stack it, and later in the game chances are you're dying first in teamfights.

Picking predator on Galio is also terrible because his ult makes it irrelevant.

Hail of blades Galio is also god awful as you wouldn't really benefit from it unless you buy titanic hydra, which you shouldn't be doing on Galio in the first place.

Arcane coment will have a really hard time actually hitting opponents. You can't proc it often as you have no way to efficiently reset it's cooldown.

Summon aery is generally terrible because you only have one spell you can use on allies, and if you want to deal more damage to enemies your cooldowns are so long even arcane comet is better. The sorcery tree gives you access to wonderful runes for any tank, but chances are you'd be better off with it as a secondary keystone as you only really want two rows here - manaflow band and convergence. The rest are very nearly useless on you, with the exception of gathering storm.

Phase rush? On a champion that slows/self-roots himself when casting all of his spells? Could be useful against champions you REALLY don't want to remain in melee range with, but chances are Aftershock will help you prevent them from pursuing you in the first place.

Grasp of the undying COULD be viable against champions like Cho'gath, but Galio rarely enters melee range if he doesn't think he can bully his lane opponent.. Aftershock is usually what lets him gain lane dominance against squishies as they can't retaliate once he lands his dash on them because he's so tanky, and will remain viable post-laning phase. Grasp doesn't. The resolve tree grants you access to the most valuable runes a tank could ever wish for - EVERY SINGLE rune here is great on Galio. You could pick ANY combination of the minor keystones and they'll be efficient on you, maybe with the exception of revitalize.

Aftershock is a spell you Galio can proc on three of his four spells. It's damage scales with both health and AP, and grants you a bunch of front-loaded resistances that synergize perfectly with your W. While it has a long cooldown, so do you - Galio rarely sticks around for extended skirmishes as he plays more like a burst mage that all-ins and either drops his opponent low on his initial rotation of spells or backs off and plays safe for the rest of the laning phase if he fails to do so.

Guardian is only remotely viable on support Galio and even then Aftershock would be superior in every possible situation since it provides you everything you need as a support tank. The cooldown is far too long to be worth the meagre benefit it provides.

Glacial touch could hypothetically be OK as a support, but chances are the enemy will just turn and kill you rather than run away when you proc it. You do not have the bulk or the damage to be a threat wielding this. Inspiration has some really good runes for any champion but is extremely situational. Magical footwear is always great for someone that likes laning safely until they can ult, either of the three middle row runes are wonderful all-around and Galio can use the three bottom ones efficiently and effectively.

Kleptomancy is like a riskier grasp of the undying. It's easier to proc, but if the enemy laner can all-in you you're going to lose so much health you have to back after trying to proc it.

Spellbook could work, technically. Just like it could technically work on Draven. You CAN use it, but chances are there's another keystone out there that would synergize with your kit a million times better, granting you both increased survivability, utility and damage. Galio don't really have a lot of summoner spells he can utilize effectively.

Did i skip any?

Nope, you listed several spells and explained why they were viable. Great job, figured it out yourself!

Frontline Fury1 votes

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Nope, you listed several spells and explained why they were viable. Great job, figured it out yourself!

I listed exactly why they arent. The rune trees have viable runes galio can use, but they're so extremely sub-optimal you're basically weakening yourself rather than strengthening yourself by using them.

Aftershock is superior in EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION because it simply synergizes so well with Galio's kit. And he can efficiently use all the three minor rune slots in the resolve tree - none of the other keystones do that for him.

Teslyn1 votes

wish riot didnt knee cap my main as well. when they let Zyra out of her weak jail i was pushing up the ranks. then they put their filthy boot back on her plant neck. it happens.

emarythomp21 votes

They also did it for garen and skarner.... not suprised

lolipopevelynn1 votes

Im just glad eve they didnt fuck over Evelynn and she is in a nice spot

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