3 Days in and Galio still needs an HotFix buff btw if you havent noticed 47 to 43% win rate is trash

LL Justice·Jun 3, 2018·28 votes·11,146 views

I know u dont care Riot since theres like 3 galio player left playing the champion but that doesnt mean you should stop doing your work or something??

In about a week when the fiesta calms down people will actually notice that Galio is RN a Int pick and needs to be dodged and reported....

Like cmon thats not even funny ignoring things like that but hotfixing Yasuo into a good state and then u made taliya do 250 dmg with a lv1 full Q....

53 Comments

ThunderneedleJun 3, 201819 votes

They didnt hesitate hotfix Buffing yasuo though

MetalGearTeemoJun 4, 20181 votes

its almost like regardless of how much they lie to your face about champion popularity and skin sales not affecting balance goals... its just that.

Lies. [zombie-brand-clap]

gileskdJun 3, 201816 votes

sorry to tell you sir, but galio died. they didn't want anyone to notice so they brought in a new guy. he is bigger and whiter than galio, but it was all they could find on short notice. [cass-cry]

DanjengJun 3, 20184 votes

Oh how I miss his laughter, his unparalleled sustain, and intricately animated particles. Every night I dream of being with my dearly beloved gargoyle, but an imposter has taken his place instead. The golden-white statue that stands before me is not Galio but a false image under the guise of his name. Sadly it seems it is here to stay, and my darling Galio I once knew is no more. Oh the pain in the pit of my loins at the thought of his absence! Only in my dream-sleep can I enjoy my time with him, but that time is short. Thus I await the time when I can sleep forever.

Akali is SO HOTJun 3, 20189 votes

Galio is a champ that you can't really give buffs to without being super careful about it. When he's strong he is really overbearing in higher elos and completely dominates mid and top. They could hotfix Yasuo because he doesn't have this problem.

Romans VI XXIIIJun 3, 201811 votes

but yas is? lmfao

SalsonJun 3, 20183 votes

Yasuo is mostly a problem in low elo, and no one cares about low elo.

Romans VI XXIIIJun 3, 20188 votes

except over 90% of the community is low elo...so yes over 90% of the players CARE about it....sigh

xxMuffiiinsxxJun 4, 20182 votes

I think the point wasn't about that 90% caring, it was about the 10% as well as devs not caring about that 90% in general.

AhrisJun 4, 20181 votes

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I think the point wasn't about that 90% caring, it was about the 10% as well as devs not caring about that 90% in general.

Eh Riot nerfed Ahri ONLY BECAUSE of low elo though. In highelo she was balanced.

I guess Ahri is an exception. They dont want ahri in competitive ever because her character and looks and her basically theme is a prostitute so Riot does not want a champ like that to be common in highelo and thus nerfed her so that she wouldnt be viable there(riot changed her kit so that she wouldnt be picked competitively and if she was picked, changed her splash art so wont look too sexualized).

As a matter of fact Riot has been continously attacked by people because of sexualizing characters and thus Riot wanted to decrease the amount sexualized as possible. This is good practice. The stupid part is, most girls are sexualizing themselves in the streets and those same people who attack Riot wont even attack those acts.

TheCodeisCupCakeJun 3, 20181 votes

I mean, Galio had his whole 100 to 0 Meta. Yasuo was only really ever an S tier champ, like every other champ he got his spot, he never 50%'d your hp with 1 Q if he wasn't ahead as fuck.

My Waifu VanillaJun 4, 20181 votes

Galio got hotfixed nerfed the day the patch dropped. Long time to be in the spotlight in solo queue amirite?

Akali is SO HOTJun 4, 20181 votes

Yasuo has never been a problem in higher elos aside from post buff release Yasuo and the more recent Bruiser Yasuo. Riot has given him buffs when he was on the weaker side and it has never pushed him into pick/ban status. Galio is basically the polar opposite of that.

GaliöJun 4, 20181 votes

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Galio is a champ that you can't really give buffs to without being super careful about it. When he's strong he is really overbearing in higher elos and completely dominates mid and top. They could hotfix Yasuo because he doesn't have this problem.

He isnt doing well in high elo right now either. :p

CrazFight Jun 3, 20186 votes

bUt He IsNt PopUlaR liKe YaSuO

MetallikaiserJun 3, 20184 votes

His problem is that his design failed. He is anti mage tank that builds full ap. Okay... those MR ratios get a lot of use huh? I think it would be poor to just number buff him, instead they should give a little tweak and give him a second passive that is his old passive maybe with a slight buff. So incase you werent there for it, Galio gained 50% of his MR as AP, how about we bring it back? Maybe stronger at 60%, something to allow him to build tanky and actually get resistances without feeling like he doesnt even do enough damage to clear wave.

SirLapseJun 4, 20181 votes

His design most certainly worked. He completely nullified Shen's existence from the game and replaced almost every tank in the game. The Azir of tanks.

And now that he's bad people would like buffs when his kit has moved entirely away from tanking and more into mid lane AP? AP Galio shouldn't even exist since it has way too many problems in terms of how fast and reliable his combos are for the damage dealt.

Neptunia xoxoJun 3, 20183 votes

I mean if hes still played in masters / challenger korea then I think hes doing alright lol hes just a very situational champion that you can't just yolo pick every game. If you are good with a champion then you will do good on that champion no matter the state of that champion. A lot of winrates are BS and don't really show the actual potential of that champion just like Ryze when he had a low winrate overall but in high elo hes seen with 55%+ and seen in pro play a bunch.

Handy Sandy Jun 3, 20182 votes

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I mean if hes still played in masters / challenger korea then I think hes doing alright lol hes just a very situational champion that you can't just yolo pick every game. If you are good with a champion then you will do good on that champion no matter the state of that champion. A lot of winrates are BS and don't really show the actual potential of that champion just like Ryze when he had a low winrate overall but in high elo hes seen with 55%+ and seen in pro play a bunch.

so bad winrates = good and shouldn't be fixed

Neptunia xoxoJun 4, 20181 votes

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so bad winrates = good and shouldn't be fixed

I never said ALL winrates. but going off about a champion like this that is clearly seen in high level play and doing well on top of that like idk what else to tell you lol nothing needs to be done to him.

Handy Sandy Jun 4, 20182 votes

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but going off about a champion like this that is clearly seen in high level play and doing well on top of that like idk what else to tell you lol

this exact type of thing has happened before say hello to these trash tier champions Ryze Azir Viktor Kalista that all have the same story

Azir "It's true, I was dominating high level play and then got nerfed!" Kalista "Unbelievable, my skill ceiling was just too high...." Taliyah "My winrate isn't as bad, but I'm on the way there!"

galio will end up like them and forgotten about which isn't a very good thing to do for the people who still enjoy and play him. he obviously needs changes

"good in competitive but bad in solo q" is the worst thing that can happen to a champion because it puts riot in a weird spot, who do they balance it for? So instead of reworking then they'll nerf then into oblivion and then forget about them. If Galio becomes too strong in competitive, then he gets nerfs and the rest of soloq will feel it. He won't be changed anytime soon because he's not a mobile AD assassin.

IfnethJun 4, 20181 votes

Taliyah got hotfix buffed after the patch. She’s bonkers now. Damage reduction on subsequent rocks in a Volley is 40% rather than 60%. Every mine in Unraveled Earth has 30% rather than 20% AP scaling, pre-reduction. Her winrate zoomed up.

DW DianaJun 4, 20181 votes

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Taliyah got hotfix buffed after the patch. She’s bonkers now. Damage reduction on subsequent rocks in a Volley is 40% rather than 60%. Every mine in Unraveled Earth has 30% rather than 20% AP scaling, pre-reduction. Her winrate zoomed up.

Of course! Riot can't have their fangirl be balanced! She wouldn't be the top mage in mid for the pro's to abuse!

IfnethJun 4, 20182 votes

Riot doesn’t favor certain champs in balancing decisions, and even if they did, then Taliyah would not be one of them. Her playerbase has always been tiny and is even smaller now.

They hotfixes her because the patch dumpstered her. Her winrate was 43%, and her pickrate dropped to around 0.5%. These changes weren’t bandwagon players failing to adapt and then leaving. Her sub-Reddit was in mourning, with one thread being press F to pay respects, another being about crying at the changes, and yet another being a somber video about how it was “Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all”. The other threads were packed with comments like “Goodnight, sweet princess,” “Murdered in her crib before she even got a skin,” and “Born and died on the same day”. Mains were telling new players not to pick her up and speaking openly about finding other champs for themselves. These are some of the sweetest and most dedicated players you’ll find.

Riot wanted to equalize her solo-queue and competitive performance—not give her the Kalista treatment! So, before the champ were abandoned, they gave her a bunch of damage in a hot-fix and hoped for the best. Without her insane lane priority and worked-ground movespeed, she’ll never be the competitive power-pick she was, but now at least she’ll have the chance to be balanced in both arenas.

DW DianaJun 4, 20181 votes

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Riot doesn’t favor certain champs in balancing decisions

This is as far as I got before I stopped reading. They always have.

Handy Sandy Jun 4, 20181 votes

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Taliyah got hotfix buffed after the patch. She’s bonkers now. Damage reduction on subsequent rocks in a Volley is 40% rather than 60%. Every mine in Unraveled Earth has 30% rather than 20% AP scaling, pre-reduction. Her winrate zoomed up.

o dang

Neptunia xoxoJun 4, 20181 votes

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this exact type of thing has happened before say hello to these trash tier champions that all have the same story

"It's true, I was dominating high level play and then got nerfed!" "Unbelievable, my skill ceiling was just too high...." "My winrate isn't as bad, but I'm on the way there!"

galio will end up like them and forgotten about which isn't a very good thing to do for the people who still enjoy and play him. he obviously needs changes

"good in competitive but bad in solo q" is the worst thing that can happen to a champion because it puts riot in a weird spot, who do they balance it for? So instead of reworking then they'll nerf then into oblivion and then forget about them. If Galio becomes too strong in competitive, then he gets nerfs and the rest of soloq will feel it. He won't be changed anytime soon because he's not a mobile AD assassin.

As I said before if you are good on that champion then you will do good. But a lot of these champions are used in certain comps or very select picks for something like for Galio hes more of a peel bot with counter engaged or follow up engage which makes him special. This is why riot ignores these forums majority of the time lol

Handy Sandy Jun 5, 20181 votes

As I said before if you are good on that champion then you will do good.

which is true for any champion to exist ever I don't really see a point to this.

with this logic even a 20% winrate champion is still balanced because it wins sometimes. what's the point of buffing anyone anyway if you're still gonna do good on them as long as you know how to play them? just think about how stupid that sounds lmao

But a lot of these champions are used in certain comps or very select picks for something like for Galio hes more of a peel bot with counter engaged or follow up engage which makes him special

That's the definition of someone who's good in every meta where ADCs are strong, which is right now. And yet he's failing in something he should be good at.

Neptunia xoxoJun 5, 20181 votes

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which is true for any champion to exist ever I don't really see a point to this.

with this logic even a 20% winrate champion is still balanced because it wins sometimes. what's the point of buffing anyone anyway if you're still gonna do good on them as long as you know how to play them? just think about how stupid that sounds lmao

That's the definition of someone who's good in every meta where ADCs are strong, which is right now. And yet he's failing in something he should be good at.

? I don't see how hes failing if hes still seeing high play. Like I said you can't just yolo pick him like you can with some other champions and instead use him for select comps and he will feel like hes god. This thread is literally pointless lol

ArakadiaJun 3, 20182 votes

I know u dont care Riot since theres like 3 galio player left playing the champion but that doesnt mean you should stop doing your work or something??

What an awful way to start off a shitpost about a valid topic.

Pika FoxJun 3, 20182 votes

Is there a reason why he dropped this patch? All the changes were to AD stuff, and i doubt ultimate hunter did anything to hurt him.

My Waifu VanillaJun 4, 20181 votes

Galio takes manaflow band anyway so that isn't the reason. I haven't gotten mid lane yet all patch, but he was my go to for other patches. I personally can't think of an exact reason for the drop tbh. The popularity of BoRK could be the reason tbh since he has one of the lowest base armors in the game and buys a lot of health in RoA, Liandry's, and a potential Morello.

TheCodeisCupCakeJun 3, 20182 votes

You know, as a Yasuo main its kind of disgusting that my champ got hot fixed but Galio didn't. I hate to admit it but this is favoritism. (to some extent)

Mystery MisterYiJun 4, 20182 votes

What is Galio? Is that a new rune?

iTaLenTZJun 3, 20181 votes

Galio doesn't sell as much skins as Yasuo

SlampieceHawkeJun 3, 20181 votes

Balance team busy flinging poop at eachother and letting ka'sai be the most braindead, build anything, faceroll adc to ever play.
Riot also released Zoe. What more do you expect out of them?

SasogwaJun 4, 20181 votes

pfff... Galio has been a monster pick in competitive for like ever since his rework and he's bad a few days in soloQ and u already complain?

I don't even know what to say..

My Waifu VanillaJun 4, 20181 votes

Galio hasn't been higher than a 47% WR in solo queue since the overtuned AP Galio that lasted a grand total of 1 day. He has bad a few MONTHS in solo queue. The only reason I play him is because he's fun and can wrangle in some window licking bot laners by the constant ganks and the denial ultimate.

GaliöJun 4, 20181 votes

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pfff... Galio has been a monster pick in competitive for like ever since his rework and he's bad a few days in soloQ and u already complain?

I don't even know what to say..

He has been 43% for a couple months and he isnt picked very often in competative anymore. Also the ardent meta is over so u dont need galio giving your 3K shield 400 AD marksmen 30% DR for 2 seconds anymore.

ReySolomonJun 4, 20181 votes

As I said before they can simply remove the %HP from Q then revert it back to its original CD/Mana cost without the %HP and see where he lands.

CosnirakJun 4, 20181 votes

Whether your point is valid or not this level of hyperbole deserves nothing but downvotes. It's so extreme that you're more likely to hurt your cause than help it with this kind of post.

LL JusticeJun 4, 20181 votes

you really think they care about this post and Galio he doesnt profit riot so why would they care about doing their job on that champion when they can just ignore him and put their effort somewhere else lol

CosnirakJun 4, 20181 votes

They certainly care about Galio. Riot also very importantly isn't a single mind with only one concern or goal. Galio absolutely brings Riot profit, what you really mean is that he doesn't bring them a lot of profit, especially proportionally, but that's true of all champions.

Regardless of your continued hyperbole my point is that your thread cannot possibly help your cause. At best it's just a form of venting at the expense of other people like me who come across it and don't like it. Riot is very aware of how bad Galio is doing. At least several people at Riot absolutely care. The problem is that they don't have a great solution.

Riot would love it if no champion was amazing in pro play while having a low win rate in solo q. But there's no simple answer to that problem that doesn't run into multiple other problems. Unfortunately for Galio he's running into this problem at the worst possible time. Riot has already spent a ton of time and effort trying to fix other champions with this issue. They've done it so much in fact, and mostly failed repeatedly, that right now they've decided to mostly give up trying to fix that problem for the moment and work on other stuff that will ideally turn out better instead. Being the newest champion to really have this issue and having it such an extreme degree means he might see some work on it soon, but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

remakoroJun 4, 20181 votes

Where is hyperbole?

CosnirakJun 4, 20181 votes

[sg-ahri-3]

remakoroJun 4, 20181 votes

Dont give me that. I asked you a question.

Whether your point is valid or not this level of hyperbole deserves nothing but downvotes.

Thats from your post. I double checked OP but failed to find anything i would consider as such. So where is it? The fuck your slutty fox refusing something even supposed to mean after you downvoted my question? M?

Ah sorry... I just got it... It must mean that you are an animal and cant be held accountable for your words.

CosnirakJun 5, 20181 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

ModPeriscopeJun 5, 20181 votes

Maybe just point out that a 4% change in WR isn't significant to you. Clearly they think it is an exaggeration.

We're not all expected to agree with one another, but we can disagree in a civil way.

XXXshotasionNov 18, 20181 votes

I agree galio really needs a buff he is my fav champion everything about him I love but he is too weak he fails to go up against most champions but every patch shit like Zoe yasuo etc get buffed but galio gets swept under the carpet