I'm not sure what to think of this. You say "never ending amount of bs" and yet show us assasins doing their "no counter play, feast or femine" bullshit. Anyhow, merry christmas.
Don't try to defend ADC's.
Ranged AD has been broken ever since the start of the game and Riot continues to make them the only class required in every single team comp. Assassins are a necessary evil in order to keep ADC's under control
I'm not defending them, I'm saying ill rather have champions that need 20+ min of farming to become relevant than champions that 100-0 anyone who is not a tank with 1/2 items and a full rotation with 0 counter play what so ever.
The counterplay is not letting them get to the point of "Feast". And champs like Zed and ekko have plenty of counterplay in their burst.
If your notion of balance to a champion it's "dont let them become feed" then you have serious issues. And Zed it's one of the worst example of balance and healthy game play. He either destroys you, or you get a zhonya and he cant do jack shit.
The existance of this motherfucker ->
is the only reason I no longer play
in ranked
First of all, the idea that anyone has serious issues because of their idea of game balance is ludicrous. Second of all, having a lead dependent carry is a fairly debatable topic, and yes it actually IS balanced to have that in the game. Its risk vs reward, and the enemy team has an opportunity to deny the reward. However, those champs tend to be pubstompers and that is generally an unhealthy thing to have in the game, because all you need is for some teammates to feed the Zed 3 kills and boom now he's ahead and you're struggling to survive under your turret. So not unbalanced, unhealthy and unfun.
You said they have no counter play, which is just wrong. You can disagree on how well implemented that counterplay is, but the only thing i said is that they have counterplay. For zed burst, Zhonyas is counterplay, QSS is counterplay flash is counterplay, almost any CC is easy to land on him, any mobility to dodge his burst... and that is just his own burst rotation, he has plenty of counterplay otherwise. The problem is he also has a lot of outplay potential, so people tend to overblow his "omg no counterplaay".
And that's not even talking about Ekko, the guy is a perfect assassin. Everything is skillshots, has some outplay potential so still fun to play and assassinate, has clear strengths and weaknesses.
Tl;dr You might be right that he is the worst example of healthy gameplay (which i disagree with.. how can you say that when rengar and akali exist? Maybe because Zed is more meta?), but being a bad example of balance is an entirely different thing.
I will say that akali and talon need some skill to play in the early game. They're at a point right now where even against the people they counter they kind of suck. Js.
It's just they are so nerfed they cant do jack shit unless they are super ahead.
In fairness... Assassins are possibly the only class of champion I can think of that has been complained about more than ADC. Defending ADCs to the community would be hard. Defending Assassins to the community is damn-near impossible.
Cuz fuk ADCs that's why :)
<3
I like you.
This makes me want to become an assassin main, and I'm a support main...
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W-would you give me a few tips? :'(
Like, who do I start with and stuff? All I can play is Talon and Zed so far...
Pretty easy Assassins to start out with. I can't really give you any tips for assassins in general other than the generic "Know when to go in for the kill" and stuff but I do have a guide out for Akali if you want it. Just finished updating it for the preseason yesterday. http://www.solomid.net/guide/view/134323
If you want to know more about Talon, Zed, or Khazix you can add a guy in client named Haunt. He's pretty helpful when it comes to explaining those three.
THANK YOU
If you can play Zed you can play anything
You should also try
, he is amazing at murdering ADC's
I'm not... sure.
Zed doesn't exactly have the highest skillfloor, and since I'm silver 4 I don't think I'm anywhere near any champion's skill ceiling. If anything, Zed's probably one of the easier assassins at my elo (although not overall, I am not bashing on him).
Considering I feed like a New York soup kitchen when playing Katarina or Leblanc, I don't think I'm skilled enough to play just about everyone quite yet.
took me awhile to realize you are being sarcastic. RIP
I'm... not?
:/ Yes I feed with Katarina/Leblanc. It's one of my shames. Support main, remember?
well zed actually has the highest skillfloor but I feel ya, I can play syndra, zed, ori, and tf pretty well, but for some reason, I suck major huevos with Annie LOL
Highest skillfloor? o.O
I dunno, his passive makes farming a little easier and as long as you don't spam W and mind your shadows (both of which were hard at first, I admit), his energy isn't all that hard to manage.
He doesn't seem all that hard to pick up, honestly. Just hard to master.
oh ya, mixed up skill ceiling with skillfloor. But still id think that Zed would have the highest one bc he is still really skillshot dependent, whereas the other aren't. I mean yes lb has skill shots, but their hitboxes are so large and the ability is so fast, it's pretty hard to miss and its pretty hard for the enemy to dodge.
nods
Glad we cleared that up, I was confused D:
Although I think Zed's skill ceiling isn't just skillshots alone, but rather his multiple shadows and how they interact with his abilities that drive up the potential (and difficulty of mastering!).
Does Leblanc have a higher skill flooring, or do I just plain suck with her? :/
Despite popular belief leblanc is not easy to play. Her laning phase is kinda faceroll especially against certain matchups but late game it becomes really hard to assassinate people unless you can make picks. Keeping track of which ability is tied to your ult is also pretty hard to do especially in the middle of a fight which takes a lot of skill to manage. She's not the hardest champion to play but she definitely isn't easy
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I see you like jumping onto carries

That's a real shame
what carry?
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what carry?
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Nothing is true, everything is raged at by the enemy ADC :p
Which supports do you play?
I play quite a few. Obviously I have my favorites, but I like to have a wide pool to handle any situation, either counterpicking the enemy team, picking into an ADC for a high pressure bot lane, or picking into my team comp.
I play several supports, but I guess my primaries are
(before she was cool)

Support main. No wonder you hate ADC's
I pretend to hate assassins because that's what support mains do (natural rivalry, you know), but I do admit I get a little more catharsis when playing assassins than I probably should.
Our little secret, okay? ;)
LMAO. This video is naturally satisfying. It brings healing to my ice-cold assassins heart.
You dislike ADC players and you play assassins like LeBlanc,Zed and Fizz...not to mention Akali,pardon me if i don't agree with you.
Excuse me sir but Akali is a beautiful champion
I hate you lol
Merry Christmas
Step 1:aquire stat stick
Step 2:beat them with it
Merry Christmas to you too. I'm not an ADC main but still wish you a Merry Christmas! =)
I see you have bound the Mastery Emote somewhere easy for maximum BMing ^_^
If you want, I can tell you how to make it play whenever you use your ult, as a chrismas present from me! [slayer-jinx-catface]
I have it bound to my ult and laugh :p
This is part of the reason I play Ezreal... I tend to have little issues with assassins, having a nice low CD blink
The part with Kalista was great:
Kal- I'm just gonna hop around and farm- Sees LeBlanc Kal- Oh no, hop away, HOP AWAY Gets Popped Kal- SHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttt.....
In the marksman's defense here, some of these people made really stupid mistakes (Like that Quinn holy shit.)
And as someone who prefers the marksman role, please stop scaring the shit out of me.
Pretty cool how you make Akali seem like a good champion.
Ya she's the best
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Pretty cool how you make Akali seem like a good champion.
You say that yet I see at least one anti-akali qq everyday.
I'd QQ too if I was an Akali player. She's easily the least fluid assassin in this game. It feels awful to play her.
That being said, this guy is clearly pretty skilled with her. Like all champions, just because they're outclassed, doesn't mean they're unplayable.
By QQ I meant people that have been stomped by an akali..
Those of us that are skilled with her will do well. As for the fluidity issues: it lies all on the fact that her burst is laid out in 2 full spell rotations and if your enemy is expecting it they can almost always escape. After a few core items though it turns more into the favor of the akali and so long as she isn't focused she can usually end up gaining 2+ kills per teamfight.