Remove the Support role from Ranked

Hallbuster··2 votes·918 views

Ranked games should no longer have supports, it's clear that more than 50 percent of all players do not want this role and will likely do horrible with it or troll. In most case scenarios, supports actually do more harm by feeding than supporting their team. If Riot wants to lower toxicity we need supports gone from ranked. Suppor mains, find a real role.

58 Comments

BigMilkCows6 votes

Hallbuster no offense but I've seen so many of your moronic posts lately and I have to say that if you're going to make your opinions seem so objective than keep it to yourself. People are entitled to their own opinions but the moment you start insulting people it becomes a joke and invalid. If all your opinions are like this keep it in your head and not on the internet. Just a thought, do with it what you will.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

I think he's trying to balance out laughing fish's upvotes by getting as many down votes as possible.

Embertine1 votes

But you can't see someone's lifetime downvotes so what's the point?

Hallbuster1 votes

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But you can't see someone's lifetime downvotes so what's the point?

I'm sure I've gotten plenty of upvotes before:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/upklH58Z-every-time-a-player-receives-honor-additional-ip-should-be-awarded?show=flat

How do you explain this?

sit kid1 votes

Because it isnt so stupid like this. It encouraged people to play honorable.

This is just pure nonsense. Just like A LOT of your posts are. And one post with 75 upvotes compared to all of your shitposts. It is not even impressive

But what do you even know about the actual game and the community? Supports may be autofilled scrubs in Bronze 3, but what is the alternative? Double jungle is not even an option with these jungle respawn timers. You dont just make league a 4v4 game. What will happen with all the champions designed to play as supports? Braum, Soraka?

Use your brain, that's why you have it and stop blaming riot for every feeder you have in your game ;)

Hallbuster1 votes

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Because it isnt so stupid like this. It encouraged people to play honorable.

This is just pure nonsense. Just like A LOT of your posts are. And one post with 75 upvotes compared to all of your shitposts. It is not even impressive

But what do you even know about the actual game and the community? Supports may be autofilled scrubs in Bronze 3, but what is the alternative? Double jungle is not even an option with these jungle respawn timers. You dont just make league a 4v4 game. What will happen with all the champions designed to play as supports? Braum, Soraka?

Use your brain, that's why you have it and stop blaming riot for every feeder you have in your game ;)

Soraka can be played Mid and Braum could do well top. support champions don't always have to go the support route!

sit kid1 votes

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Soraka can be played Mid and Braum could do well top. support champions don't always have to go the support route!

In bronze... Think on a compeditive level. Jesus christ i didn't think it was possible to have an IQ below 0

Hallbuster1 votes

These champions, especially Soraka can be played on a competitive level! Scarfs a former LoL coach for SKT even got a quadra with Soraka Mid!

sit kid1 votes

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These champions, especially Soraka can be played on a competitive level! Scarfs a former LoL coach for SKT even got a quadra with Soraka Mid!

I cant take you serious anymore. That was old soraka you hardstuck bronzie... New soraka would be so fucking useless outside of bronze since she relies on amplifying her team.

Solo lane soraka is borderline trolling. She has no laning power whatsoever. Just like Janna and bard.

There's a reason you're stuck in bronze, and it is not the support. It is not your teammates. It is you - git gud

Embertine1 votes

Hey sorry for the late reply but I was specifically asking about what the point would be to trying to match amount of downvotes to the amount of upvotes that Laughing Fish has, when you can't see how many downvotes someone has received over their time on the boards.

Hallbuster1 votes

There should be a feature that allows you to see the total number of up votes/down votes, someone showed me but I forgot.

Jo0o5 votes

Glad to know I don't play a real role.

Dunno why I've offered you advice and analysis before; you're clearly just a douche.

Hallbuster1 votes

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Glad to know I don't play a real role.

Dunno why I've offered you advice and analysis before; you're clearly just a douche.

It's a simple fact most players don't want to play support! How does being honest make me a douche? If everyone wanted to play support I wouldn't get auto filled support more than 3 times each day! Most people that do get support also troll, or take their role less seriously. I haven't seen an actual( not carry ) support in my games for ages!

Monochrome Angel2 votes

It's a simple fact most players don't want to play support! How does being honest make me a douche?

You can be honest without being a douche. There's a little word called "discretion."

I haven't seen an actual( not carry ) support in my games for ages!

So you're saying that "your" games provide insight of how the game should work and applies to that of the vast majority of other ones that people experience?

Hallbuster1 votes

{quoted}

You can be honest without being a douche. There's a little word called "discretion."

So you're saying that "your" games provide insight of how the game should work and applies to that of the vast majority of other ones that people experience?

As for the second paragraph, yes, until you reach higher Elo's where people actually start to value teamwork. Supports will always fail at their job. The only emphasis here is carrying the useless feeders on your team and hoping you have one less feeder than the opposing team.

Monochrome Angel2 votes

Supports will always fail at their job.

That's your opinion buddy. You can't exactly prove that.

It seems as if a majority of your points that you're attempting to make are based around your opinion like its the only one that should be prioritized and highlighted.

Prime Examples:

Supports will always fail at their job.

Most people that do get support also troll, or take their role less seriously.

Most people that play supports don't even try to stay on meta

And then try to back your opinions with YOUR experiences such as:

If everyone wanted to play support I wouldn't get auto filled support more than 3 times each day!

League is not centered around you buddy lol and if you knew SO much about how the game worked then you wouldn't be at such a low elo because you would know how to work around these problems that you know SO much about.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Hallbuster1 votes

{quoted}

That's your opinion buddy. You can't exactly prove that.

It seems as if a majority of your points that you're attempting to make are based around your opinion like its the only one that should be prioritized and highlighted.

Prime Examples:

And then try to back your opinions with YOUR experiences such as:

League is not centered around you buddy lol and if you knew SO much about how the game worked then you wouldn't be at such a low elo because you would know how to work around these problems that you know SO much about.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

I do know a lot about this game! I've made valuable inquiries that were not far from the truth such as posts like these:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/jaVtQyh0-balance-is-a-joke-right-now-long-rant

Monochrome Angel2 votes

Valuable inquiries based around YOUR opinions because of things that happened to YOU. Again, league does not revolve around you. You can't create your own truth and say that it's a fact.

Embertine2 votes

I prefer playing support though. . . .

Embertine3 votes

I looked up your profile to see what rank you were, (Not to bash your rank mind you, but rather see what tier of support players you play with,) and found that you are playing with bronze supports.

After having been in bronze since season 2 and only managing to work my way out to silver last season, I know that the supports you typically have still do not understand certain player mechanics. That's Player mechanics not Game mechanics. By this I mean they haven't learned situational awareness just yet and are still just relying on map awareness and whatever happens to be their best support champion.

I only got out of bronze because I learned that playing the game "My Way" was not winning matches, and I learned how to better judge situations more quickly, reducing my deaths and bringing up my team's kills and assists.

Sadly it took me years to figure all this out and learn, but I did get out of bronze when I did learn and figure it out.

Hallbuster1 votes

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I looked up your profile so see what rank you were, (Not to bash your rank mind you, but rather see what tier of support players you play with,) and found that you are playing with bronze supports.

After having been in bronze since season 2 and only managing to work my way out to silver last season, I know that the supports you typically have still do not understand certain player mechanics. That's Player mechanics not Game mechanics. By this I mean they haven't learned situational awareness just yet and are still just relying on map awareness and whatever happens to be their best support champion.

I only got out of bronze because I learned that playing the game "My Way" was not winning matches, and I learned how to better judge situations more quickly, reducing my deaths and bringing up my team's kills and assists.

Sadly it took me years to figure all this out and learn, but I did get out of bronze when I did learn and figure it out.

So you're saying I have to make better game decisions?

BigMilkCows1 votes

So you're saying I have to make better game decisions?

I think he is saying have a different mindset. Think about this bud. If "All supports feed" Then your teams supp and the others supp should feed, by your logic. This, therefore, would even out with both ADC's getting fed but this clearly doesn't happen so your logic is flawed and this argument is null void. I'm currently in Bronze because I'm still new but when I play ADC I rarely get feeders. As Supp your not going to get kills, you're not supposed to. Reevaluate yourself before you assume you're smarter than 1000 employees who actually have jobs thinking about how to make this game better.

Hallbuster2 votes

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I think he is saying have a different mindset. Think about this bud. If "All supports feed" Then your teams supp and the others supp should feed, by your logic. This, therefore, would even out with both ADC's getting fed but this clearly doesn't happen so your logic is flawed and this argument is null void. I'm currently in Bronze because I'm still new but when I play ADC I rarely get feeders. As Supp your not going to get kills, you're not supposed to. Reevaluate yourself before you assume you're smarter than 1000 employees who actually have jobs thinking about how to make this game better.

Very good post.

BigMilkCows1 votes

Very good post.

Thank you, good sir

Lexyy2 votes

Arent you a smart cookie...

First says less then 50% wants to play that role then flames people who actually do want to play it ahahah I guess you dont love it when support saves your useless a*s then?

Hallbuster1 votes

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Arent you a smart cookie...

First says less then 50% wants to play that role then flames people who actually do want to play it ahahah I guess you dont love it when support saves your useless a*s then?

Most people that play supports don't even try to stay on meta. I've seen Yasuo supports to players who don't even take coin or thief.

Mig892 votes

And ive seen mid laners, top laners, and junglers who go off meta as well. Thats not an argument. Id rather have a mediocre support than a midlaner who thinks they know how to play vlad or ahri and proceeds to feed most their game. How about we remove all bronze players from league. Noone wants to play with that unskilled mess. You play in bronze my dude, dont act like you know or understand the meta. Sorry, im a support main who carries more often than you do and i found your post offensive.

Hallbuster1 votes

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And ive seen mid laners, top laners, and junglers who go off meta as well. Thats not an argument. Id rather have a mediocre support than a midlaner who thinks they know how to play vlad or ahri and proceeds to feed most their game. How about we remove all bronze players from league. Noone wants to play with that unskilled mess. You play in bronze my dude, dont act like you know or understand the meta. Sorry, im a support main who carries more often than you do and i found your post offensive.

I was playing with silver, golds, and even a rare plat before my normal MMR fell. I went from 36 wins over losses to 18, all because I thought I could carry as support.

I have game knowledge and definitely know how to play my one trick particularly well.

P.S I main Vladimir and rarely lose my lane unless I failed to predict a jungler gank.

Mig891 votes

Winning lane in bronze doesn't mean much and the whole "i won my lane" argument is pedestrian. If you live in your bubble and win lane while the rest of your team is losing you're not helping win games. Idk what exactly is holding you back but your mentality on macro play is more likely than not part of it

Hallbuster1 votes

Sometimes I'm too lazy to roam, I shove my lane all the way forward and get team ganked.

Mig891 votes

stop doing it lol

Hallbuster1 votes

Bad habits die hard. Sometimes I look at my map and see bot lane is feeding their butt off, instead of rushing down, I just casually finish farming a minion wave.

Mig891 votes

You have my respect. Not everyone knows why theyre hard stuck at a rank.

hátśúńé míkú2 votes

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Hallbuster1 votes

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i like support cus ive met a lot of CHIXX supporting me. its also a reason i started playing adc the most. ChicksJanna Soraka Morgana [zombie-nunu-hearts] but if i have TheJungleDude69 on Thresh, u know im not trying as hard

Quality bad post.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

It's funny at least

Monochrome Angel2 votes

I guess high level league players who are support mains or just good support players in general haven't had purpose in playing league. It's almost like it takes practicing a role to be good at in ranked. Hmm...strange.

It's almost like there aren't any "play-making" or "game-changing" supports. Oh wait, there are: Bard Thresh Zyra Morgana Taric

It's almost like the support role isn't unique. Oh, but it is: Brand MissFortune Malzahar Shen Sion Poppy Nautilus Annie

item 3070 R.I.P. Aphromoo - You have been discredited my friend item 3070

it's clear that more than 50 percent of all players do not want this role and will likely do horrible with it or troll

^^^ You can't blame the role for a couple bad players. Maybe if some of you Top or Mid mains would trying LEARNING the support role there wouldn't have to be an excess amount of support players being blamed for trolling Mid mains or Top mains playing the support role. Why not try to learn something you know you could possible get stuck with? Is planning ahead a foreign concept? Hmm...strange.

In most case scenarios, supports actually do more harm by feeding than supporting their team.

Oh my apologies. You must be an expert in league. Sorry, i was mistaken.

If Riot wants to lower toxicity we need supports gone from ranked.

Sooooo....the toxicity isn't derived form the Mid and Top mains trolling because they stuck with the support role not thinking that maybe they should learn it since autofill DOES exist. Hmm...absolutely strange indeed.

Suppor mains, find a real role.

Ok, us "suppor" mains will go and play Overwatch and main Mercy so we can continue doing nothing. You are a wise human, I look up to you my friend.

SpaghettiVase1 votes

I'm really disappointed that you didn't include Zilean as a play-making support

Monochrome Angel1 votes

Oh sorry lol I tried looking through every champ and I forgot he was support too. My B <3

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

Imo he kinda relies on stopping enemy teams plays. Aside from slowing people, you can't do much until teamfight phase when people are distracted enough for you to land stuns. How do you play him that makes him seem like a play making support?

Hallbuster1 votes

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Imo he kinda relies on stopping enemy teams plays. Aside from slowing people, you can't do much until teamfight phase when people are distracted enough for you to land stuns. How do you play him that makes him seem like a play making support?

I'm sorry but this is too incoherent for me to understand. It sounds like you're agreeing with me but I don't know what you mean in general, Taric probably?

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

That's fine, wasn't for you anyways.

Hallbuster1 votes

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That's fine, wasn't for you anyways.

Oh never mind then.

SpaghettiVase1 votes

AOE stun with massive damage that can stun the ADC and support AND minion wave so my ADC has no confrontation when poking or getting kills.

a slow that last for 2.5 seconds and is stronger than summoner 3 at rank 1 (Minus the damage reduction of course)

an ult that lets a carry die only to gain back more than half to full health, depending on my AP, and when they revive they can clean up. Its not that hard to set up plays with Zilean, ever had a camouflaged twitch running at you at 99% boosted movement speed with his ult up?

CannonLordFreed1 votes

Is there a way to mute players on boards? I'm tired of seeing you post these stupid threads. Just because you feel the need to shove your foot down your throat doesn't mean I want to listen.

Embertine1 votes

I think you can blacklist them if you have FEK installed and active. Blacklisting makes it so you no longer see their posts anymore. However I'm not sure the latest version still has it, but you can check.

CannonLordFreed1 votes

Thanks.

TimX24968B1 votes

wrong forum section, buddy. This isn't the M&G section

Hallbuster1 votes

Idk what that forum section is.

TimX24968B1 votes

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