Why use shaco if Lee sin actually has late game during teamfights. What's shacos advantage here that Lee can't do? Yes they are both early and have similar skill potential in playwise. I don't want to sound biased here though. Yes shaco can do invisible while Lee can execute kick that same person. I wanna know the strength they both carry late/early game that makes them strong.
Beerstein2 votesShaco is a safer split pusher, not just the blink, but the fear boxes he can set up in key locations before even getting into a solo split push situation.
Basically, Shaco is a "I'm planning to split push from pick phase" champion. Lee Sin has more options. I permaban Lee Sin anyway, so he doesn't exist in my league.
xDogMeatx1 votesLee sin isn't broken though he's just very strong because he was 2 or 3 (flash) chances to get the gap shut between the target. I'll agree his outplay escapes (Q raptors) is annoying. I play him enough to know he can't just spam mindlessly if your outta energy that means your outta moves at that point. Being stuck with no energy feels well... Slow. At least I know why shaco is picked though lel
Beerstein1 votesLee sin isn't broken though he's just very strong because he was 2 or 3 (flash) chances to get the gap shut between the target. I'll agree his outplay escapes (Q raptors) is annoying. I play him enough to know he can't just spam mindlessly if your outta energy that means your outta moves at that point. Being stuck with no energy feels well... Slow. At least I know why shaco is picked though lel
You're lying to yourself. I never said Lee Sin was broken, or that there were any issues with him. I just said I permaban him. The first words out of your mouth were "He isn't broken though." Someone is in denial.
Anyway, I couldn't care less about Lee Sin as he's my permaban, but Shaco is picked for his split push, mobility, and objective control.
xDogMeatx1 votesPermaban = undesirable = means obviously broken in fun in your perspective.
And yes I'll remember that thing about shaco
Beerstein1 votesPermaban = undesirable = means obviously broken in fun in your perspective
He was when I started banning him, but that was years ago. I'm happy to never see him again and will continue doing so until he's not a popular pick. If I banned purely off who beats my face in I'd ban Jarvan 4 instead, but he's not a common pick.
xDogMeatx1 votesYou got a point there. He is too popular due to his access options.
Gildarzt2 votesShaco is not early champ
