DOTA's Winter Wyvern makes Lissandra look pathetic

Estrogen Rider··2 votes·1,760 views

I'm just saying...

Compare and contrast the two champions/heroes side by side and you'll see what I mean. Winter Wyvern's overall kit just seems far more creative and fun.

Winter Wyvern can freeze an enemy in place AND force all of the victim's allies to attack the frozen enemy. This makes her a great counter to enemy carries as well as being an AoE taunt/stun. Can Lissandra do that? No. All she has is a puny 1.5 second targeted stun as a ultimate.

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insaiyanbacca2 votes

and why do we care?(seriously an honest question)

doublelift fg1 votes

because** if **he is right, then we can improve the game and have more fun

insaiyanbacca1 votes

ah i see now

Z Statistic1 votes

Are you really saying Wyvern is exactly the same as Lissandra but strictly better just because of the ice theme?

Estrogen Rider1 votes

Same theme (ice), but better design, better creativity, better originality, and better fun.

Just goes to show how much I feel that the LoL champions are too boring.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Same theme (ice), but better design, better creativity, better originality, and better fun.

Just goes to show how much I feel that the LoL champions are too boring.

That ultimate would also be really shitty design in League.

Ironclad Dragon1 votes

Here we go.

InSingedWeTrust1 votes

Comparing a game where literally everything is OP so it creates some kind of weird balance to League. Relevant.

MalzaharAnyLane1 votes

If I could play Malzahar in DOTA instead of League, I would immediately be a top tier ganker and mid-laner and easily over 4000 MMR using smoke ganks. Immobile champions controlling large zones are nothing new in DOTA but champions are rarely given strong and self-sustaining waveclear or scaling max HP damage due to how defenses scale in DOTA to be more effective but have fewer reasonable items to buy.

Your argument is invalid, League's /champions/ are better than DOTA (until DOTA actually makes scaling burst mages on par and interchangeable with ADC's) but the skills and item actives are scaled back to be less impactful to try to make what's going on easy to interpret by a casual spectator or new player... something entirely unnecessary as DOTA has proven.

There are other differences between the two games and the types of decision-making or rules for sportsmanship that, if one of the games iterated on the other's ideas without copying them, would finally make one or the other the de-facto champion of ESports for the next 10 years, but both are scared shitless of crossing certain lines in the sand that the other has set.

Neither is definitively better than the other, because they are built on a severely flawed and damaged ruleset to begin with, namely that you win more games based off the enemy team's mistakes than you do your own strategy going in, and a mechanically bad player saddles a team down far more than a mechanically good player can carry it.

Sire Hippington1 votes
  1. just as most dota heroes, winterwyvern is totally broken for lol terms.
  2. Lissandras kit is far more fun to play, atleast for me. On winterwyvern(again likme with most dota heros), the skills aren't really connected, there is no real combo or anything.

I definitly prefer lissandra desgin wise

kneel on Ice1 votes

How do you dare ? Comparing the queen Ice Witch to a shemale dragon ? So stupid .

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