Season 8: The Death of Vision

KING XXXI·11/7/2018, 5:09:13 PM·91 votes·19,780 views

Vision has been nerfed to oblivion this season. Ward durations are decreased, cooldowns are increased, pink ward is replaced by control ward (which is USELESS if you're behind and oppressive when you're ahead), and why do I have to wait 10 minutes to get Sightstone?

You're really pushing it, but I guess you just want every champion to one shot you from fog of war because we have this one useless piece of shit ward that we can only use every 5 minutes and lasts for virtually no time.

I'm fine with damage being as high as it is but PLEASE give us our vision back.

64 Comments

Sire Hippington11/7/2018, 7:00:59 PM21 votes

Death of vision was in S6 already, now it's desecration of the corpse...

Mr Bob Boberson11/7/2018, 5:38:51 PM18 votes

Riot big brain

JeaneGreene11/7/2018, 8:13:18 PM18 votes

I swear every patch is just turning League of Legends more into League of Lee Sin

Kaisha11/7/2018, 8:05:25 PM12 votes

This is not going to work while you still have champs that at level 6 can delete opponents at will. There's no counter play against FOTM champs apart from cowering behind towers and hoping they are dumb enough to dive them... and even then its pointless half the time.

Yet again this will hurt the immobile squishies and buff the hyper-mobile carries.

Agent Corgi11/7/2018, 5:29:08 PM9 votes

They reduced the amount of Control wards you can carry by 1 (Down from 3) and Trinket Ward duration has been reduced by 60 seconds (Wards last 2 minutes instead of 3 minutes).

What this is going to do is encourage people to actually play safe & not be as reckless. Junglers will benefit off this as lanes won't be warded as much, meaning they can gank more frequently. Completing the Support quests should be the supports top priority in Botlane (if it wasn't a top priority already) as it gives them the ability to provide more vision on the map. People are also even more prone to "getting caught out" mid-late game as Trinket wards won't last as long & you'll have to rely on the Control Wards & your Support for vision on the map.

Baby Ghoul11/8/2018, 1:51:55 AM8 votes

The nerf to vision is so extreme and unnecessary.

As a support main I really hated the whole quest aspect when I could always buy a Sightstone very early and keep us protected bot lane. Making us wait 10 minutes made a huge difference and contributed to how unforgiving bot lane is.

ADCs are always hyper focused on farming and trading, so they don't always use their trinket, now even when they do we're still going to be so vulnerable against flashy champs that love catching people face checking bushes.

I think I'll go back to top lane because bot lane is going to be even more miserable with these changes and snowballs are going to get worse as a result.

haaaaaaalp11/7/2018, 5:34:10 PM5 votes

I prefer they take away vision and balance around a game with less information between each team. The entire concept of vision wards in mobas was never something meant to be nearly as infeuential as it is today. Observation wards was just one of many items that was added from the base warcraft 3 game to fill out inventory spots in shops when dota was getting off the ground and the entire genra got stuck balancing around them for a decade.

I like what dota did to limit and circumvent warding and I think riot is on the right path in limiting ward vision. They just need to commit to balancing the game in such a way that random catches from less vision doesn't swing the game as much.

Fistful1211/8/2018, 4:27:29 PM5 votes

You forgot to mention that tracker's knife was also removed. The season 8 changes were made to break the Korean dominance, which was through macro play especially through vision. In the process, they turned the game into a brainless brawl. If I remember correctly, most games are played on the Korean servers, so if Riot pisses off the Koreans, that could be really detrimental for the status of the game. And the Koreans are pissed. That's the reason that Riot was so late to secure the venues for the 2018 Worlds. They were not even able the secure the primary venue.

wolvius11/7/2018, 8:43:00 PM4 votes

Someone overlay this with riots face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HyL5IrtBfs

FilDaFunk11/7/2018, 11:23:20 PM4 votes

You're fine with damage being as high as it is?

RyzeTheSmurfMage11/7/2018, 7:30:11 PM4 votes

Just like in Infinity War

hsumis1ove11/8/2018, 4:33:20 AM3 votes

Don't forget this also indirectly buffs assassins especially those who build duskblade.

Also anyone remember when faker said you should check the minimap every 5 seconds? I feel like this isn't nearly as important as it used to be.

Buuriin11/8/2018, 11:37:29 AM3 votes

Being an Enchanter support player since season 3, I have to say that season 8 was the most unfun season I have ever played. My play time dramatically decrease from 1 match per day to 1-2 matches per week.

I hate myself for keep hoping that the game will get back to it old state some how.

BigFBear11/7/2018, 6:49:39 PM3 votes

I think it's a good thing. Players have to play more intelligent and need more map awareness instead of shitting wards everywhere and see every incomming gank. This is a good change.

Sorostaran11/8/2018, 8:02:05 AM3 votes

Nerf vision to make older champions obsolete.

Keep up the trend of releasing new champions which thrive in the new low-vision environment.

Profit.

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Calcîfer11/7/2018, 10:05:05 PM2 votes

Lets's not forget that they made certain champions to be invisible even with control wards.

5050BS11/7/2018, 9:50:23 PM2 votes

You mean S9. S8 is basically over.

YuGiHo11/8/2018, 10:04:39 AM2 votes

What if they just gave pink wards camo like pyke w or rengar ult?

The Great Divide11/7/2018, 8:51:38 PM1 votes

Maybe I'm stupid, or don't have a good memory, but in what ways are control wards different/worse than the old pink ward. Because I'm remembering them being pretty similar

GripaAviara11/8/2018, 8:02:41 PM1 votes

I think this change, if it will hit the servers will rapidly get reverted or other vision tweaks will be added. Even now there's a lack of vision, I don't even want to imagine what going dark will do to this game

Gilgayu11/8/2018, 8:50:02 PM1 votes

I bet this nerf to vision is meant to buff kayn. I mean, warding already do so little to him lolol.

WrÆth11/8/2018, 9:14:29 PM1 votes

I'm just sad that trackers knife lee isn't a thing anymore :/ now they just keep buffing his damage to make up for it until he becomes an inevitable busted stat ball that is considerably less fun and hard to play