Defense item vs ad casters

IGotScuttleCrabs··1 votes·1,573 views

Am I missing it or is there no true defense option vs ad casters. item 3110 item 3143 item 3075 are all great armor items but there built more to counter dps adcs like Ashe Fiora Vayne Tryndamere

I feel we need an item tuned to be more effective vs champs like Ezreal Jayce Graves Riven Talon Zed who kill you in bursts rather than DOT.

Honestly I think an item like this could be the solution that counters some strong champs without having to touch their personal numbers.

13 Comments

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Zhonya's Hourglass can be used to avoid most of an AD Caster's burst damage when timed well.

Randuin's Omen gives a good amount of armor and health for general survivability.

Many AD casters rely on assassinating or bursting their target to kill them quickly, so Guardian's Angel can serve to give you a second chance at life.

In addition, most AD casters need to be in melee range to deal the majority of their damage, so they can usually be CCed if one knows how to aim or predict their movements.

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

item 3157 is great for an ap champ doesn't help anyone else. I mean Trist can grab a Zhonyas for a last item and make use of the ap but what use would fiora or vayne have for it. And item 3026 is a late game last item thing that wouldn't be a great 2nd item to build. Also it's cd is probably 5 times longer than any ad casters rotation cd.

Niji1 votes

So like an armor banshees or something similar???

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

This is what I'd like to see. Something that either requires them to poke first and wait for a cd or go for their burst and miss a chunk due to the ad spell shield.

SouL1ess1 votes

Sigh.

Then nevermind.

Blue Collar Bear1 votes

Flat damage reduction helps. I see quite a lot of mid laners running exhaust.

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

Yea this is usually the best option atm vs many burst champs.

SouL1ess1 votes

Randuins gives you at least 700 effective health against AD damage.

It isn't made to specifically counter dps ADCs.

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

I guess what I'm asking for is an item that has a passive tuned towards ad casters. Thornmail, Omen, and Frozen Heart all have passives tuned towards ad dps.

SouL1ess1 votes

Well what else do you want aside from high effective health that would make the enemy assassin requiring at least (500/7.5) more bonus AD to kill you from 100% health?

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

I'm really into the only guys idea of an ad equivalent of banshees.

Going off what you said about effective health being enough, why would you need an attack speed slow or a damage return on an item if just buying enough resistance is enough. The idea is that it ads item variety. Do you want to buy omen for health, armor and a counter to the enemy jinx. Or do you want to buy new item that gives health armor and a passive to counter the enemy zed.

Xtremey1 votes

and then you realize ad casters dont get free 200/250% dmg increase on their spells

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

Crit and rng is a whole other department that riot needs to have a long discussion about.

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