A quick explanation and questions about the teamgame.

ADC Yuumi··5 votes·6,028 views

I'm going to mention a far-dead game to all of you at this very moment. Some of you will revolt, others may keep reading. That's not gonna change the fact one of you is gonna instaclick the downvote button.

I'm going to talk about Overwatch for a quick moment.

Overwatch from then and still now, shifts the core focus of the entire game to team play. You will not win without a tank or healer. Solder:76 and Mei being the only exception as they're DPS / Support - Defence / Tank hybrids. Solo killing in OW is impossible without landing an extremely hard to hit ability, having a few good lucky shots, or using every ability and bullet in your possession. Heroes are vastly different ( Except for Sigma, who has a clunkier Zarya ult. ) and all cannot be played in the same way.

Of course, such a team game has it's downside; such as nearly unkillable enemies with a good Supp / Tank duo, or ultimate mixes which wipe out everyone.

That said, let's hop back to League.

Hooks: Blitzcrank Thresh Pyke Execution Threshold: Pyke Urgot Heavy Execute: Darius Jinx Jhin Pyke Akali Kaisa True Damage Slabbing:Pyke Vayne

Pyke kept popping up for that one, huh?

Three Spell Q's: Aatrox Riven Yasuo TSQ Dash champions: Aatrox Riven Yasuo TSQ Damage Bonus champions: Aatrox Riven Yasuo TSQ Knockup Champions: Aatrox Riven Yasuo TSQ Ultimate Bonus Champions: Aatrox Riven Yasuo

All Three Spell Q champions have... 5 things in common.

Champions who are unable to solo-kill ( Without items or spells ): Yuumi Only one champion cannot solo-kill.

Can Dash 3 times within 5 seconds: Ahri Akali Qiyana Irelia Stealth Burst: Evelynn Neeko Rengar Khazix Enemy buff: Rengar Khazix Ally buff: Xayah Rakan Can recall in more ways than one: Xayah Rakan Yuumi Twitch ( Q + Recall )

And now taking a quick look backwards, how many of them have a shield / lifesteal / heal in their own kit? Now how many of these champions are healers? Now how many of these champions are tanks?

SKT T1 battles Griffin, 2019-08-31. SKT picks are: Akali Trundle Azir Xayah Rakan. Griffin picks are: Jayce Sejuani Aatrox Kaisa Volibear

Fnatic battles Splyce, 2019-09-15. FNC bans are: Qiyana Rakan Sylas Gragas JarvanIV Splyce bans are: Yuumi Akali Aatrox Nocturne Urgot

And you're wondering why I didn't add skt / fnc pick / bans. Because there was nothing wrong with them.

And I'm not invested with E-Sports, but the moment you start talking pro-play someone will listen since anything outside of pro-play is "low-tier trash."

You will find ONE of these champions, regardless of bans; in your game. Some of these are copy-pastes of each other, and others are highly gimmicky.

#AKA, in short. Stop the copy-pasting. And not all ultimates need to erase champions.

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Rewt2 votes

"Unable to solo kill in OW" Lol

I made it to Plat in OW by fucking around on Mccree solo killing everything in sight. sure I needed to hop back to a healer every once in a while, but in many cases I would go off and get picks so we could push sites. Tracer is flanking? headshot, flashbang, headshot. genji is flanking. Bait the reflect, Headshot, flashbang, headshot.

ADC Yuumi1 votes

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"Unable to solo kill in OW" Lol

I made it to Plat in OW by fucking around on Mccree solo killing everything in sight. sure I needed to hop back to a healer every once in a while, but in many cases I would go off and get picks so we could push sites. Tracer is flanking? headshot, flashbang, headshot. genji is flanking. Bait the reflect, Headshot, flashbang, headshot.

But you had a reason to say: "I needed to hop back to a healer once in a while." You also only went for squishy duelists like Genji and Tracer, who are also Damage flanks.

We talk about LoL and guess what? Why have Janna if Kaisa can shield herself? Why have Soraka heal in a teamfight if Fiora can do just that?

Champions have been made to care more about themselves than the team, of course not counting enchanters.

Ahri Ahri can heal herself and has 3 forms of evasion. ( passive bonus, E and R. ) Riven Riven can shield herself ( for a shitton mind you ) and has 2 reliable forms of escape as well as a self-buff. Aatrox Aatrox can sponge and heal rapidly, has 3 knock ups and a dash ( still be it small. ) Yuumi Yummi can't barely be hit. Sylas Heal, Shield, Dash. Qiyana Dash, Dash, Dash, Dash.

I see no reason why any of these champions would need a healer or tank.

In OW, if you pick Tracer; you go behind the enemy and flank knowing the healer and tank of your team pushes the enemy down. In LoL, if you pick Kai'sa; you can go into any lane without question, solo-kill anything and have no need for a support or tank.

Rewt1 votes

Healing is shitty stat in League if its not life steal. In 90% of cases a 400hp shield is better than a 600hp heal. Since shielding can be done preemptively.

Now you could say that TTK is league is too high, but honestly.... I dont see it as a problem. I remember Lethality on release. THAT was too fast. I also remember S5. That was waaaaaay too slow. While maybe nowdays league is a little too fast. Its much more playable than those other 2 periods. Of all the times of league of legends Im happiest with the TTK of today. When I play tanks I feel impactful, When I play assassins I feel impactful. You can play every role effectively nowadays. Sure healers can be a little weak outside of lane phase, but that is when they are supposed to be strong.

Also. There is no way to heal in OW outside of a healer, Health pack, or running all the way back to spawn. In league of legends. Recalling/Lifesteal are actually quite effective for sustain. So it naturally changes the way that the game plays.

Comparing OW to League is kind of dumb because of how differently they play. Im not even talking about the mechaincs of an FPS vs a MOBA. The games have almost no similarities. Plus even then. Lets talk about the League community. When teamplay is necessary everyone screeches that you cant solo carry. When teamplay isnt necessary everyone screeches about people just solo carrying everything and funneling is too powerful. Right now the game feels like its in the most healthy state its ever been in. And this is someone who has played since S2

ADC Yuumi1 votes

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Healing is shitty stat in League if its not life steal. In 90% of cases a 400hp shield is better than a 600hp heal. Since shielding can be done preemptively.

Now you could say that TTK is league is too high, but honestly.... I dont see it as a problem. I remember Lethality on release. THAT was too fast. I also remember S5. That was waaaaaay too slow. While maybe nowdays league is a little too fast. Its much more playable than those other 2 periods. Of all the times of league of legends Im happiest with the TTK of today. When I play tanks I feel impactful, When I play assassins I feel impactful. You can play every role effectively nowadays. Sure healers can be a little weak outside of lane phase, but that is when they are supposed to be strong.

Also. There is no way to heal in OW outside of a healer, Health pack, or running all the way back to spawn. In league of legends. Recalling/Lifesteal are actually quite effective for sustain. So it naturally changes the way that the game plays.

Comparing OW to League is kind of dumb because of how differently they play. Im not even talking about the mechaincs of an FPS vs a MOBA. The games have almost no similarities. Plus even then. Lets talk about the League community. When teamplay is necessary everyone screeches that you cant solo carry. When teamplay isnt necessary everyone screeches about people just solo carrying everything and funneling is too powerful. Right now the game feels like its in the most healthy state its ever been in. And this is someone who has played since S2

Lemme rehash on the teamgame part. They don't play similarly at all, but I'm trying to say OW NEEDS you to play as a team. LoL just needs you to kill.

Ragnaveil1 votes

The problem with League right now is that some luxury utilities are being slapped all over the place without the costs ever being equated. Why do you think Akali keeps getting nerfed right now despite removing toxic true stealth? Because Mobility has been slapped to high hell on her kit with easy damage application. If they re-tune the passive so that it doesn't need movespeed, her actual strengths could be gauged. Right now, that movespeed allows her to win trades one way or another.

preternatural1 votes

just wanna mention that akali stopped being a problem when her stealth got changed, she gets nerfed now because people refuse to learn how to play against her.

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