I think it is about time that Rengar got some buffs, even small ones

Doozku··10 votes·2,825 views

Two days ago, I was checking some winrates on Champion.gg, when I decided to pull up the winrate of my favorite Kitty Rengo. Then I saw a number that was so low, it couldn't be real.

http://i.imgur.com/e1QL22H.jpg?1

"There's no way," I thought. That just couldn't be real. So I checked again today and found that he was sitting at a 47% winrate. Why the sudden drop, I don't know. Something wonky about Champion.gg. So I checked Lolking.

http://i.imgur.com/kkfTaLh.png

Wow, that's even worse than the one above. Clearly the winrate websites say different things about our knifekitty but the all end up saying the same thing. That he's Really Bad rn.

One more screenshot, this one compares Rengar to all of the junglers that are below him on the winrate department.

blob:http://imgur.com/ccca5a27-f9e1-4daf-bbbd-ebe1a3d0a663

We can cross out Lee Sin and graves, because their low winrates can be explained because of their really high popularity, and their constant appearance as a "super op must pick jungler," so most of the people who pick them don't know how they work. This is especially true for Lee Sin. That leaves the last couple of champions on that list. For almost all of those champions, their meta roles are in another lane. Admittedly, these champions are generally weak in their other roles but almost all of these champions are getting a buff on pbe or have been buffed either this patch, or a patch or two ago. This means that Rengar is essentially the bottom of the barrel for junglers, since the only junglers that are worse than him are off-meta junglers who are already pretty weak in their respective lanes.

So what I'm asking Riot for is just some kind of buff. It could be something small, or it could be something decently big. Regardless, Rengar needs some help right now. Of course, alongside the buffs is going to be the decision of whether or not Riot wants to make Rengar a squishy, high burst threat, or a tanky, sustained damage bruiser. Since Riot is going to have to balance for one of the two playstyles. Whichever one you pick, please make Rengar more viable to play. I've basically abandoned this champion after his last batch of nerfs because of how weak he feels to play now. Any kind of buff would be appreciated.

17 Comments

Dusk Mane Rengar5 votes

Rengar is dead, Adc mains and Riot have won.

Jar Jar binks l2 votes

Volibear says hello

Doozku3 votes

Volibear needs a VGU. Also his winrate is still higher than Rengar's. Also Volibear's existence does not negate the need for Rengar to have buffs. It just means that they both need buffs.

FeAR THe Reηg01 votes

I think i will have a heart attack. WTF are all these? Where is this champion? Where is our beloved kitty? RIOT FIX THE MISTAKE YOU DID WITH THE RENGAR REWORK! Look his play rate! No one enjoy this rework. We need a revert or a new rework but Riot is doing nothing about it. Just RIP Rengar and RIP League of Legends. Rengar item 3073

Jackite1 votes

YES totally agree!!!!

HOT BEEF 1 votes

Clid used to be rank 1 in korea and he played rengar to get there and this was when he was considered "shit"

Doozku1 votes

Just because one player can be very good at a champion doesn't mean that the champion isn't bad for everyone else. Just as an example, before Aatrox's rework there was a player who mained Aatrox jg and made it up to masters. That didn't mean that the champion was absolute garbage, just that the player is good.

One Shot and GG1 votes

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Clid used to be rank 1 in korea and he played rengar to get there and this was when he was considered "shit"

Clid hasnt touched rengar for almost a month now

Limitanei1 votes

Honest question.

If Rengar really is a "bottom barrel jungler" as you state, why does the #1 Rengar player in the world have over a 90% winrate with him? (He's reached Challenger this season, and has reached Master in season 6, 5, and 4.)

And no, he's not a one trick. He's also the #6 Zac in the world.

Links:

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/tahx

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=tahx

Doozku1 votes

Just because one player can be very good at a champion doesn't mean that the champion isn't bad for everyone else. Just as an example, before Aatrox's rework there was a player who mained Aatrox jg and made it up to masters. That didn't mean that the champion was absolute garbage, just that the player is good.

Edit: Looking at his match history, it looks like he only plays flex queue with a full premade. Not saying that makes him bad, but it kinda discredits the champion from being so top-tier amazing. He doesn't even play that much either, he seems like the guy who gets a really high winrate in challenger and then just plays two games to keep his winrate in place. Also I feel like Rengar is a champion that is considerable better in high elo, at least in his current state. His ultimate zoning is just really good up there, but I'd have to ask some higher elo players on that since idk about that kinda stuff. I'm obviously not high elo.

I miss her1 votes

https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=darkvanesavage bg urgot broken better nerf soon smh

I miss her1 votes

Plus these websites guide themselves only by statistics and nothing else. I'm positive he isn't the best Rengar in the world because winrates and similar guidelines that they use can be easily boosted by playing the champion in lower elos than your own and then switching to something else so the winrate doesn't decrease. If I were to get a bronze 5 account and spam Rengar on it till plat I'd probably have a winrate of around ~70-75%. Not because I can win 70% of all Plat games but because I can win 85-90% of all bronze-silver games, fooling these statistic websites and possibly making them rank me higher than I actually deserve.

FortisDominus1 votes

That rengar is doing flexQ with friends in many of his games so the winrates are going to be skewed

Darthmemes021 votes

Umm not really. The reason people can't play him now is that he actually takes skill and team coordination now, stop complaining that the meta doesn't like rengar, I looked at the stats and master rengar's have a 60% win rate on average. Riot doesn't need to give rengar an identity, the players do and we love the fact that we can go full damage or bruiser depending on the game

Doozku1 votes

This post is 3 months old before Duskblade was a thing.

Darthmemes021 votes

yeah so delete it, it's irrelevant and pointless now

electromat1 votes

The thing that realy need a rework is his passive. Rengar need to gather tooth from kill and assist but if you die before the assist you get no stack. mean while kaz just need to hit 16 for evo . plus they made him visible with with the stealth rework so seriously he realy need some buff and passive rework.

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