"Reworking Swains WHOLE Kit" I have issues on only one part with this.

Darth West·7/19/2017, 10:03:57 PM·8 votes·552 views

I have many reasons as to why I love the bird but I can't help but think really hard about "Whole Kit being changed" without worrying. As a person who Mains Swain this troubles me.

While I do agree his Q & E need changing, but now I'm positively sure they will remove his iconic ultimate that everyone loves so much. The first time I played Swain and went into transformation, I literally felt awesome. I bought his Tyrant Swain and I loved how evil I looked when I transformed...

At least keep his ultimate with some changes on it. Otherwise you are stealing what I mainly loved about Swain. Change Q,W,E cool. Don't remove his Ultimate most likely or I will be hell of disappointed no matter HOW good the new rework is.

7 Comments

Shuyin1787/19/2017, 10:35:19 PM8 votes

The "essence" of Swain is the transforming bird-man I believe. So I doubt they would just shoot his bird and prevent him from using his transformation, though it will be a lot different than "Press R and walk around".

It Hertz When IP7/20/2017, 12:04:11 AM3 votes

I feel like we're going to end up with a Sion situation. Sion's rework went wonderfully, but almost everything that made old Sion, Sion, was removed save his shield.

My prediction is Swain's gonna be the same case. Nevermove will probably be the same, but I think everything else will be completely replaced.

Bunnymap7/19/2017, 10:07:27 PM2 votes

I think you're going to be disappointed.

Divewing7/20/2017, 2:33:49 AM2 votes

Fact is the kit to begin with was a lie.

For the CHARACTER Swain is, his entire kit is false.

We have reached the point where you have to decide if you like SWAIN, or his KIT, because frankly, they cannot co-exist. Either Swain's character has to be retconned, or his Kit has to be used for a new, completely different and unrelated champion

SzGamer2277/20/2017, 3:15:37 AM1 votes

If Swain's ult is going to survive the VGU, it's likely going to be as a miniature version of itself on a standard ability.

See: Galio R -> W (AoE taunt + damage reduc) Urgot R -> E (self + enemy displacement)

Iirc the only VGU whose ult retained a strong semblance of its former self was Warwick.