Assassin rework summary

The Deckowner·Nov 13, 2016·7 votes·1,228 views

Rengar Khazix Broken as fuck.

Katarina Talon Fun mechanic, still weak.

Leblanc More counterplay IF YOU ARE MOBILE or ranged, else she is basically the same if not more disgusting.

Ekko Tank build dead, AP still bad.

Shaco For whatever reason is forced to build ap, can't gank early anymore.

Akali lets wait for her full VGU, the change is meaningless.

Fizz Still annoying, hitbox super stupid, mana buff means more brain dead.

Zed Exact the same.

Most Benefited Supports Twitch and Vayne Bad adc players Other stealth users Burst/control mages

15 Comments

AhristocatsNov 13, 20162 votes

i agree excep fizz

he's unplayable

I hate my ADCNov 13, 20161 votes

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Supports

*Tank supports

Mana regen for sustain supports was nerfed into oblivion, none of the other changes makes up for losing Chalice, not even Redemption. AP supports lost Banner of Command. Mostly everyone does more damage overall now because of the new or revamped masteries, making a non-tank support an even easier target to kill.

Tank supports however... they got Knight's Vow and Courage of the Colossus without losing anything.

The DeckownerNov 13, 20162 votes

Karma Soraka Janna are actually disgusting as fuck.

Imagine Karma E+RE+Locket+redemption+arden sensor+windspeaker.

I hate my ADCNov 13, 20161 votes

No.

Mikael lost it's heal as well as 150% base mana regen from it's 250%, now a shitty 100% mana regen. In compensation, it has 20% healing increase instead of 15%. Which means we are forced to build it to get our healing multiplier even though the item itself is pure garbage. CC break? That's QSS job, Mikael should have lost the CC break and focused solely on its pure heal.

So you need 3 items + Keystone to get 50% healing instead of 2 items + Keystone for 40% healing. The first item you'd throw away out of the 3 items would be Mikael, making it 30% healing instead of 40% for 2 items. That's right, you get less healing increase than before until you build 3 items, one of which is complete garbage. That extra item could also be spent on something more useful like Locket or Banner. But wait, Banner is now completely worthless because it was given to tanks who still won't be using it.

Gaining Redemption at the cost of all we've lost isn't a good trade, not even close to it.

khorneyNov 13, 20161 votes

i dunno what your complainign about i reach what i need to reach as janna 99% of the time. and yes banner is meant for split pushing for jungle i imagine

I hate my ADCNov 13, 20162 votes

Janna doesn't need as much mana regen so the problem isn't as big for her but she still lost 10% shielding from switching from Ardent Censer + Mikael to Ardent Censer + Redemption. Also, Old Mikael's heal > Redemption's heal. It was near-instant and couldn't miss the target because the fight moved. Now, the ADC is most likely dead before Redemption can even do its job.

khorneyNov 13, 20161 votes

man ur high also i never built mikhails ever to begin with. i reach 45% cd in 3 items so i do not get ur point.

I hate my ADCNov 13, 20161 votes

This has nothing to do with CDR.

This is about healing/shielding increase on those items item 3114 item 3504 item 3222 and item 3107

dakota saturnNov 14, 20161 votes

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*Tank supports

Mana regen for sustain supports was nerfed into oblivion, none of the other changes makes up for losing Chalice, not even Redemption. AP supports lost Banner of Command. Mostly everyone does more damage overall now because of the new or revamped masteries, making a non-tank support an even easier target to kill.

Tank supports however... they got Knight's Vow and Courage of the Colossus without losing anything.

Did you get chalice every game as support? I can only imagine that on Nami or something. I normally don't ever have mp issues as support.

I hate my ADCNov 14, 20161 votes

Athene was used by: Sona and Karma Less frequently Lux support would use it.

Mikael was used a lot by: Nami Janna Bard Lulu Soraka Taric And even some tanks like Leona Nautilus or Braum in certain occasion.

So to answer your question, yes, I was almost always using Chalice on either Athene or Mikael.

Mana is mostly an issue on Sona Nami and to some extent Lulu when playing very aggressive. Karma also has mana issues early on. Lux has mana issue as a support, but she's an off-pick so it's whatever. I can't say for Taric since I don't play him and rarely ever see him.

GaliöNov 13, 20161 votes

Assassin rework summary:

Tanks are so fucking good now and adc's are more garbo than ever.

AstôlfoNov 13, 20165 votes

How are ADCs garbage now? Almost every single reworked assassin is complete fucking trash now. And "more garbage than ever"? Are you actually high? ADCs have been dominating.

GaliöNov 13, 20161 votes

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How are ADCs garbage now? Almost every single reworked assassin is complete fucking trash now. And "more garbage than ever"? Are you actually high? ADCs have been dominating.

Adcs dominate when people are too stupid to pick a double tank ( or more) team. Tanks easily shut down adcs. Now with nerfed armor pen sans one item tanks can roll them easier and the new masteties highly benefit tanks.

Only reason adc sometimes feel strong is in more of a squishy meta.

AstôlfoNov 13, 20163 votes

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