Patchly reminder that Fiora has yet again avoided nerfs
But reksai totally needed more buffs.
Priorities.
But reksai totally needed more buffs.
Priorities.
Dude she parried the nerfs, you need to bait it first
Honestly this FIora thing is just the fotm champ to complain about in the forums. In my experience she really isn't that bad and she's not that 100% pick/ban rate champ people are claiming.
Still a seriously overloaded & quite frustrating champion to fight against, especially if you're playing a slow chunky tank like Sion.
Still don't understand why does most of her kit even needs excessive True Damage & heals when she's a Lifesteal builder...
Aren't you playing Sion into a counter?
Blind Pick exists dude, and before you say "You have NCS", I'm playing in Garena.
Then call those people tryhards and that they should play Ranked.
genderbent garen skin inc.
Who doesn't Fiora counter, exactly? Lmao
Pantheon and Kennen
It seems like cheating when you bring Pantheon into this honestly, but I can give you Kennen
I normally shit on Fiora in lane when I play
our only Spartan baker. Of course then there's that one time she parries my stun (for some reason i didn't bait it) and I die in a few seconds. So yeah there's that
Fighting cancer with cancer isn't exactly fun.
Sometimes you have to stoop to their level. Play Malzahar into Yasuo or Ahri. Mwahahahaha! Play Elise into Lee Sin! Teeheeheehee!
Of course, all lanes are pretty winnable imo regardless of matchup for all champs. Fiora's minigame is a little too slated in her favour at the moment for her. ;)
I think
and
almost always do really, really well into Fiora too
Yeah AD kennen just got nerfed and honestly AD kennen is absolute trash and nothing else. Fiora will shit on kennen anyways midgame coming. There is no counterpick to her, that's exactly the fuckin problem. Against a lot of champs she bullies, the other half is a skill matchup only and get outscaled anyways and when the ONLY answer to a champ is pantheon you might as well delete this champ. All pantheon does is shit on everyone in lane, that's his thing and if the only counter as i said to a champ is to pick pantheon then it is a horrible flawed design of a champ.
I mean, they sometimes risk taking the knock-up from his q to try to stun you... then they realize going all in on you is a lot easier and then you lose lane.
To be fair she's designed to be good against those kind of champions.
It's like saying you're getting beaten by Galio as Syndra and calling him broken.
It's actually understandable against actual duelist champions like Riven & Jax. But as Sion or Nautilus, that's just straight up bullying.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Fiora's balanced right now. She needs to be nerfed, especially to make the life of top lane tanks easier. Atm she's a hyper-scaling lane bully if you're playing a tank. It's like playing a mage into Zed in Season 5. Not fun to play against in the absolute slightest.
She needs nerfs, but she's always going to be strong against tanks due to their more generally sluggish nature.
(I would love to play Poppy in blind picks but I can't be fucked if I go up against a fiora.)
All fighters beat tanks like Sion and Nautilus. That's like saying Renekton is broken because he can bully tanks early.
So she should be nerfed because you blindpicked sion and they picked a counter in fiora to beat you?
Nerf her in a way how Yasuo's case is: Make her less frustrating to fight against in-lane.
I just hate how I have to constantly move my sides away from her to avoid getting Q'ed, or the fact that her Q cooldown always reduces as long as it hits a champion ANYTHING.
Sion is way better in team fights than fiora. If you lose the game it's your fault, not the champions.
You're flat out wrong she has the highest pick rate in the game and a 50% ban rate but really why should facts matter as long as you have an opinion that's all that matters cause it's 2017 right.
And what experience? You're gold, if the Fiora's you play against aren't using W as a harass I'd be shocked tbh.
And so are you?
Hell you're Gold V.
what's your point?
Can't you read your own posts?
So no point, okay. Because if you read my post you'd know what kammawhatever said doesn't contradict what I said and effectively serves no purpose but to give reactionary golds an excuse to circlejerk their mediocre rank. Clearly I have a better understanding of my own posts than you but sure lets just waste time pretending like you totally have a point and not just posting meaningless crap because you need the pat on the head.
Well. maybe if you're going to bash another person's rank, maybe you should make sure that your own rank is higher than theirs.
lmao my rank is higher than his, and i'm talking about the fioras he plays against as he's the one throwing in his "experience" as an argument against fiora.
gold in league gold in life, learn to read before you start blabbing nonsense
Fiora doesn't need a nerf. She's in a good place. Her great late game comes at the cost of her horrible early game against most meta tops. She requires a lot of practice to perform well if she has a good matchup.
Her great late game comes at the cost of her horrible early game against most meta tops.
What horrible early game? I killed someone at level 3 the other day on Fiora and I hardly ever play her. You literally hit people with q in the vitals every time and chunk them significantly. At level 3 I went all-in and boom, insta-win of the lane.
At level 6, Kha'zix came in for a gank and I got my ult off and won a 1v2. Real difficult early game there... I once did dip below half health because I took a bit of extra minion damage---good thing I could just lifesteal all of that back up.
People are delusional if they think Fiora is in a "good spot" right now.
EDIT: Oh, by the way, I was against a Kled. But all you do is reposte his Q and it's easy pickens thereafter.
Fiora counters Kled so yeah you should kill him early. Also regarding your ult comment. Those two champs have no hard cc to stop you from getting your ult off so that was going to happen. She's easy to beat if you know what you are doing and actually think things through
So which champ fiora doesn't counter? She counters tanks, fighters, divers. Anything except pantheon that counters her? Nope neither darius nor renekton. All skill matchups. Jayce too. So who counters her? And no fiora for her lategame shouldn't kill anyone early that easily.
Teemo, Kennen, Garen(damage build not tank), Quinn.
She's a 1v1 champ.... DONT FIGHT HER 1v1. It's like saying Yi is broken cause you can't 1v1 him as sion or Garen. I have beat a fiora main as ad crit lb in a ranked plat game. Stop complaining she is op when you pick champs she can destroy. Pick ranged with some form of mobility = ez. I don't understand these posts about her
more like a, if any tanks are on your team they're not relevant champ.
??? Because she does what she was designed to do
You can't have Tank shredding, anti CC, lifesteal tanking out the wazoo, and mobility. Can't have all of that fam.
Seriously, the fact that if anyone is a tank on my team, against her, then that tank can hardly do anything. Better off going a full dmg, squishy comp to beat her. Influencing a team comp that much from just 1 champ is just cheese.
When you get out of gold I'll give in to your game knowledge of fiora
I'd like to think people in gold 3 have adequate knowledge about the game, but ok i'm omw out.
When you face fiora her identity is to beat you 1v1. That is her kit and theme as a duelist. Most people don't have this mindset and think they should fight her over and over and then she gets fed and carries. I'm assuming you play draven so this can help you realize what fiora is. Fiora is the draven of the top lane. You don't ever want to duel by yourself or you WILL LOSE. In teamfights however if cced and focused they are huge liabilities because of the way they have to play.
looks like another 2 weeks of permabanning fiora...
Her only true counter
Maybe if they buffed all the under-performers enough to compete with the overpowered champions like her, she wouldn't be so overbearing.
Right, buff every top laner in the game rather than nerf the one that's clearly head and shoulders above the rest. The true fedora wearing hipster balancing style and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if some rioters don't buy into that nonsense.
Riot did it with marksmen, when every other class update was an overall nerf to their target audience. I was being sarcastic, riot would probably screw it up anyway.
Except Rek'Sai has needed buffs way longer than Fiora has needed nerfs, let Rek players get to enjoy their damage okay?