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Skarner cant have Slow on his Q because its toxic-Rito

Phuc Dat Bich··4 votes·531 views

So skarner couldnt keep his Slow on his Q because it was toxic according to rito when he was a melee champ that he was needed to be in 125 range of the enemy and use spell and MANA costs in order to slow someone!!

But ashe now slow from a PASSIVE ability that cost no MANA any more from 600 range IN EVERY SINGLE AA with no CDs

Ok...ok!!! so the next ADC would have kalistas Passive with ashe passive combined with jinx passive and add some better version of corki passive in order this ADC to have tons of mobility and being toxic as f@ck while dealing true damage in every AA because you know ADCs really need buffs...and bruisers who are in the hell atm need more nerfs with perma slow PASSIVES from ADCs......

And for the bronzies in this GD no sejuani and gragas are not bruisers they are tanks learn the difference bruiser is garen/Xin/Darius you know the champs that you dont see above gold

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Only Play Darius3 votes

You see plenty of bruisers above gold....

Sir Yamazuki3 votes

It's possible to run away from an Ashe, even with her slow, where as running from Skarner would be impossible, since not only would he slow, he would also run very fast.

Phuc Dat Bich2 votes

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It's possible to run away from an Ashe, even with her slow, where as running from Skarner would be impossible, since not only would he slow, he would also run very fast.

400 MS Ashe (Standard ms with PD or stattik that all ADC build) attacking with 1.7k or 1.8k AS slowing you for 30$ from 600 range Yeah mate you can really outrun that...i guess with flash? much outplay....you flash to avoid a passive ability....hmmmm

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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400 MS Ashe (Standard ms with PD or stattik that all ADC build) attacking with 1.7k or 1.8k AS slowing you for 30$ from 600 range Yeah mate you can really outrun that...i guess with flash? much outplay....you flash to avoid a passive ability....hmmmm

Skarner has an MS buff, in addition to the fact he pushes you towards his team, and he is much tankier than Ashe. Ashe simply has her stun, slow, and no mobility and at most builds 1 defensive item.

Phuc Dat Bich1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Yamazuki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Etl3NvYs,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-04-29T10:00:36.753+0000)

Skarner has an MS buff, in addition to the fact he pushes you towards his team, and he is much tankier than Ashe. Ashe simply has her stun, slow, and no mobility and at most builds 1 defensive item.

His MS buff was forcing him to go into MELEE RANGE and the ulti have like 300 range!! And you telling me that the melee range slow is weaker than the 600 range slow? for real? or the 1.2 second pull is stronger than the 3.5 second stun?

like WHAT THE HELL DO I READ HERe

Nilok4 votes

Her slow will scale with level. "Spells and basic attacks slow targets by 5/11/17/23/29/35% (at levels 1/4/7/10/13/16) for 2 seconds. "

For most of the game she will have a sub 30% slow until late game, so if you can't escape that, maybe you should get some boots.

Phuc Dat Bich1 votes

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Her slow will scale with level. "Spells and basic attacks slow targets by 5/11/17/23/29/35% (at levels 1/4/7/10/13/16) for 2 seconds. "

For most of the game she will have a sub 30% slow until late game, so if you can't escape that, maybe you should get some boots.

she was having 30% on her Q and she was uncatchable late game

NOW THAT THING IN ON HER PASSIVE plus now she have even one more slow on her Q too!!

do you see what is going on? but its ok when she is out and become permaban i would bump this post and i would reply to you and i would copy paste your post that you have make on boards about how broken ashe is!!

Nilok1 votes

I am worried that her Q may be over the top, but for the attack speed/damage side: "Passive: Applying Frost Shot grants Focus for 4 seconds, stacking 5 times.

Active: Consumes all Focus to grant 20/30/40/50/60% Attack Speed and increase Frost Shot's slow by 20% for 4 seconds. If 5 stacks are consumed, Ashe's basic attacks fire a flurry of arrows resulting in [.23/.24/.25/.26/.27 Total AD per arrow for a total of 1.15/1.20/1.25/1.30/1.35 Total AD per basic attack] physical damage per attack for the duration."

Most of the time Ashe will have less slow until she hits level 16 or she is using her Ranger's Focus past level 4, which only lasts for 4 seconds, and has an 18 second cool down at the moment.

Honestly, with all the dashes in league, I don't think it will be overpowered, and instead be a way to kite tanks which is what she was designed to do from the beginning (along with everyone else, but then mass dash/blinks happened).

Another reason it probably won't be as much of a problem on Ashe, is because she is fairly squishy, and an Assassin can make short work of her before she can escape, while Skarner can be rather tanky.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/04/428-pbe.html#ash1

Venowolf1 votes

But with the new BC passive Rage or Ashe with trinity force, how you run away? She slow and at the same time she win MS. That can turn some toxic IMO.

Annunziato2 votes

I think one of the biggest issues getting away from Skarner was both that he had a Speed Boost with his W, and an ultimate that suppressed you. That and in most cases he had access to both Iceborn Gauntlet and red buff. Ashe late game might have access to red, but she still lacks the mobility to stick to you.

HailFire Dragon1 votes

cause we ALL know that ashe passive slow is JUST as strong as skarners LOLOLOL................... no.

Abyssphere1 votes

Ashe's slow is basically no more powerful than it ever was honestly. Why weren't you complaining before?

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