Lucian needs more nerfs

Blåbæret·Jun 6, 2016·17 votes·857 views

Nothing's changed. This champ deals far too much damage. Heck, even at level 1 he can kill you in a few hits. Why does he have a spammable dodge?

15 Comments

WeedTitsJun 6, 20166 votes

So how many times does he need to be nerfed before you learn how to play against him?

DefendedJun 7, 20168 votes

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So how many times does he need to be nerfed before you learn how to play against him?

Lucian main detected.

Remlap1223Jun 7, 20162 votes

Git gud. Not everyone that disagrees with you is biased. Just crying for more nerfs isn't productive, and name calling, especially baseless name calling, isn't doing anything for anyone.

AstôlfoJun 7, 20161 votes

Uh, you can literally just check Rawr's OP.GG. He's a Lucian main. lol

AstôlfoJun 7, 20161 votes

Look at this Lucian main trying to defend an OP piece of shit, how funny.

GayFluffyUnicornJun 7, 20166 votes

The problem isn't the damage itself imo. It's his overloaded mobility. I just had a horrible game but still lucian should be no match for a garen with Thornmail and 300 armor. Ah well if i could actually get to him. Every 2 abilities his E is up again a, the W movement speed when i silenced him, it was literally impossible to get to him, he easily 1v1 me (i even flashed towards him for instant Q+Ult) but the crazy movement speed allowed him to get away. His E needs a flat CD without the passive CDR. Make it slightly lower but fix. So that he must actually decide if he wants to use it offensive or defensive. Now he just slides in: QAA-WAA-E again. BC should finally be more expensive again. Such a strong item shouldn't be the TO GO first item powerspike on nearly every toplaner, assassin and now even ADC. It should be a midgame-lategame powerspike item when teams start stacking armor.

SylverblitzJun 7, 20162 votes

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The problem isn't the damage itself imo. It's his overloaded mobility. I just had a horrible game but still lucian should be no match for a garen with Thornmail and 300 armor. Ah well if i could actually get to him. Every 2 abilities his E is up again a, the W movement speed when i silenced him, it was literally impossible to get to him, he easily 1v1 me (i even flashed towards him for instant Q+Ult) but the crazy movement speed allowed him to get away. His E needs a flat CD without the passive CDR. Make it slightly lower but fix. So that he must actually decide if he wants to use it offensive or defensive. Now he just slides in: QAA-WAA-E again. BC should finally be more expensive again. Such a strong item shouldn't be the TO GO first item powerspike on nearly every toplaner, assassin and now even ADC. It should be a midgame-lategame powerspike item when teams start stacking armor.

For Black Cleaver (and Iceborn Gauntlets) I would make it work similar to the Hydra and Tiamat items - melee only. They are not meant for ADCs to buy and in caster ADCs they are massively abused. The problem I think is that Riot want all their ADCs to feel different now instead of just all being auto attack with abilities and it's a lot harder than they probably thought. I am still to figure out why Graves get 120 MR for free.

Spaceman5pffJun 7, 20162 votes

If by free you mean having to get 4 dashes off in the same fight..

That takes quite some time.

SylverblitzJun 7, 20161 votes

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If by free you mean having to get 4 dashes off in the same fight..

That takes quite some time.

Yep, instantly 120 MR, just like I was lead to believe! puts fingers in ears and hums loudly

LazyW0lfJun 7, 20163 votes

I'd say the nerfs did their job if Lucian is sitting at a sub 50% win rate(and his play rate has dropped somewhere near 20%) and (judging by your match history) you've only seen a Lucian once over the past 2 days. More ADC's are being played and that was some of the reason Lucian got nerfed (since he was crowding out other adc's who couldn't fight him in lane).

You complain about how he can kill you in a few hits at level 1. So can other champions if you let them hit you enough. Lucian has safe poke (which got nerfed and shortened) and it's a little better now to dodge. Learn to dodge it then punish him since that's his main source of damage.

Then you complain about a spammable dash. I will admit that it needs a mana cost back or something cause it's a bit ridiculous, but it's really only spammable once he starts getting CDR and starts putting levels in it. ..which is around mid game and after laning phase. But at this point, Vayne also has a spammable dodge.

Mr FidoriJun 7, 20162 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Crazy ChatterJun 7, 20161 votes

Literally get a braum and u can rek even a good luce.

Lady HammerlockJun 7, 201610 votes

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Literally get a braum and u can rek even a good luce.

the funny thing is braum synergizes hilariously well with lucian