I'm really at a loss. How do I counter Diamond level team mates who troll, AFK, and/or intentionally feed? Because I'm currently 3-13 over the past three days, having streamed every single one of these games to display how retarded it is right now.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesDude, check the purchase order in your Match History.... they sold their items and bought all that at the last minute. They were not playing like that.
Yenn2 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eq9sMt1H,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-02-21T07:55:25.632+0000)
Dude, check the purchase order in your Match History.... they sold their items and bought all that at the last minute. They were not playing like that.
They both sold and went AFK. I was streaming this game.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesYes for the last couple minutes. It shows what time it happened.
Pryotra4 votesStop playing ranked for a bit? Clearly you are on tilt, luck related or not. I would recommend taking what I call a "ranked break" and just play normals for fun to remind yourself that A ) this is a game, made for you to have fun, and B )that we all have good and bad points in our play.
Sometimes, we have an off day, or week, and just suck. Sometimes, we feel untouchable. Play ranked with the latter. Play normals with the former. Disregard n0bs. Acquire ELO.
Yenn4 votesStop playing ranked for a bit? Clearly you are on tilt, luck related or not. I would recommend taking what I call a "ranked break" and just play normals for fun to remind yourself that A ) this is a game, made for you to have fun, and B )that we all have good and bad points in our play.
Sometimes, we have an off day, or week, and just suck. Sometimes, we feel untouchable. Play ranked with the latter. Play normals with the former. Disregard n0bs. Acquire ELO.
Except I'm streaming every single one of these games to prove I'm playing well, but my team is feeding/trolling in every single loss.
Pryotra4 votesRe-read that post. Go on.
Now, let me highlight a point for you:
Clearly you are on tilt, luck related or not.
So that can mean one of two things.
You are losing games, and that is giving you a mindset that loses further games.
You are having a string of bad luck.
So if you are truly getting these "bad teammates" with this sort of frequency, then you are on a string of bad luck. Get out of ranked so it stops being as serious a threat to your rank, and get into normals so that you can gauge when the bad spell has passed, and just to keep yourself entertained in the interim.
Yenn2 votesRe-read that post. Go on.
Now, let me highlight a point for you:
So that can mean one of two things.
You are losing games, and that is giving you a mindset that loses further games.
You are having a string of bad luck.
So if you are truly getting these "bad teammates" with this sort of frequency, then you are on a string of bad luck. Get out of ranked so it stops being as serious a threat to your rank, and get into normals so that you can gauge when the bad spell has passed, and just to keep yourself entertained in the interim.
This entire season is a 'string of bad luck.' It's been happening since season 4, because Riot has done fuck all to address it.
There are a ton of players stuck in Diamond V, who I played with in Diamond I in prior seasons. Almost every single game is lost by players who are underperforming.
Pryotra2 votesThen get out of ranked for sure. For the time being at least. If this is the case, why risk ELO over a large string of under-performers?
It simply can't last, but there is no reason to stick your neck out while it is happening.
Yenn2 votesThen get out of ranked for sure. For the time being at least. If this is the case, why risk ELO over a large string of under-performers?
It simply can't last, but there is no reason to stick your neck out while it is happening.
Are you new? This has been happening since mid-season 4. It's only gotten worse.
Leti the Yeti3 votespersonally, ive never been a fan of people telling me im on tilt not very helpful cuz its usually clear to me that its not me and my feeling that are costing the game
i can rage to my team mates and to you guys but that never stopped me from doing what has to be done in the ideal way and time within my capabilities*
Pryotra1 votesIf you are raging at team mates, then chances are that it is equally destructive to your team as you yourself playing poorly. While some can simply shrug that rage aside, there are others that can not and will not, and happily throw a game just to piss off a rager.
I equate that rage to be the mindset of being on tilt.
UnSeenDeath882 votesI'm don't really like the whole tilt thing either for me, a few weeks ago I was on a pretty nasty losing streak, I would go 2,3,4 games between wins, but I was still performing well in most of those games, then suddenly I started getting winning more games again, nothing changed, I didn't change playstyle, I didn't take a break. Only thing I feel like changed was I started getting teammates that contributed better to each game.
The Queen Viper1 votesStop playing ranked for a bit? Clearly you are on tilt, luck related or not. I would recommend taking what I call a "ranked break"...
Interesting. So let me get this straight; taking a break from ranked will magically give you better teammates and people who don't troll / feed the next time you start playing ranked again? How does this work exactly and what kind of sorcery is this?
Sure, taking a break could help when you really are the reason why your team loses... however that's not the case around 99% of the time.
Pryotra1 votesSo, firstly, that guy actively walks through the various stages and reasons of tilt. Heck, he sounds like he is on tilt in that video.
Secondly, This game has been pretty much the same since S1. Overall, the structure has remained the same, and the same concepts can be applied to win more games today. To be specific, overall concepts, not "XIN OP PICK OR BAN" or "STACK SUNFIRES TO AUTO WIN" but rather concepts like "ward more" and "focus objectives". Heck, I'm not even trying to claim these are new or exciting ideas. They've been with us since release. All that raging about how games last too long and what not in the video could have applied S1 tactics to win the games before the issue of long games came about. (btw, I was laughing so hard while he was bitching about 30 minutes being long. Sounds like someone from s3 who was spoiled by too many games being decided in the first 5 minutes of the game. In season 1, 45-50 minute games were common.)
Interesting. So let me get this straight; taking a break from ranked will magically give you better teammates and people who don't troll / feed the next time you start playing ranked again? How does this work exactly and what kind of sorcery is this?
For example, I've been pretty slow with my placements this season. I garuntee that every single match has had at least 1-2 Bronze level players on my team, judging by their attitude, general skill level, and choices that they make both in lane and in teamfights. These players have all quickly become weights to the team, like an albatross around our necks to bear. And you know what? I still managed to win 3 of 4 games played so far. The one I lost? I played bad. Yeah, I had an off game. It happens. You know what I did afterwords? I ate. No ranked game to try and make it better. Just food and a tiny bit of exercise.
Thing is, because I take my time, playing a game or two every few days, I tend to play with a pretty good mood, and that can really make the difference. How? because I am more tolerant of glue eaters in my placements because I don't deal with them every day. I am more willing to shove lane and gank, helping them win their lane.
Keep in mind I am doing this with mid Heimer, so it's not like these ganks are SUPER EFFECTIVE. However, they are effective at helping the player feel supported by the team, as well as making their opponent feel more insecure when they push. I have found that simple action of showing up in another lane can be enough to turn around a player who is bad and stubborn. If I am willing to do something way out of my champs comfort zone to lend a hand, they tend to be more willing to work with me.
Corny as hell, I know, but hey, it works.
Malix Farwin3 votesBest Hecarim NA
Raptamei1 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eq9sMt1H,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-02-21T07:49:35.227+0000)
Best Hecarim NA
And he still has a better score than OP LOL.
Sythriel Draken3 votesIt's simple. Unless you are a well known streamer, or in their LCS, They really don't care about their solo que system. This is noticeable due to the fact that, when you lose in solo que, you lose 20-30 points, and only gain anywhere from 12-15 points when you win. This requires you, in order to even advance and not drop down a peg, to get lucky and get a streak going before you even have a chance to rank up. They say that you are matched around your equal skill level players, but I call that bullshit. they may be in the same rank, but if they were equal skill, then you would get the same points that you would have lost if they beat you.
Vistha Kai1 votesIf you lose 25+ LP your MMR is utter crap and you should L2P. That's all it means.
Deep Terror Nami2 votesSo salty that I'm right that he downvotes me hahaha. You're the troll Yenn.
Check it yourself. Thresh purchase history/build path
Hecarim purchase history/build path
They sold all their items in the last couple minutes. Yenn is always raging about his terrible teams, but they went 16-22 which is very close, and he's completely mistaken or lying about them trolling. The proof is in the public match history.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesYou both have points. I will say that it Hec sold his things with almost 5 mins left. It also appears that he afk'd the 2 teamfights after he sold his things in which they have up 7 combined kills. Meaning the game was a lot closer before he trolled.
Yenn2 votesEnemy team just had a 16-0-6 Master Yi.
proud and bronze1 votesyou are going to lose 50% of your games. that is a fact. matchmaking ensures this. therefore if you troll 50% of your games they don't feel like real losses. and you can win a very high % of the games you actually play instead of just 50% of them.
I recommend you troll/throw every game from the red side. then you can win from the blue side. everyone is happy.
Vistha Kai3 votes^What is this crap? I don't even.
proud and bronze1 votesits the truth. look up anyone on lolking from bronze to diamond. they all have 50% winrates. league of legends rigs the games to make sure everyone can only win half.
if you choose your losses it is the only way to win a high % and beat their system. otherwise you will lose half. just like everyone else.
Vistha Kai1 votesThat's why at one point I had 30-40% winrate. Because that's how your made-up world works.
proud and bronze1 voteseasy to test. look up anyone in these comments. check anyone in the world except maybe the top 5% or the bottom 5%.
lets check the people who have posted in this thread
vistha kai - 49% yenn - 48% xxxlumberjackxxx - 48% unseendeath88 - 51% sythriel draken - 42% (bronze 4) nucleophilic atk - 45%
what a coincidence! everyone who has posted and has played at least 50 games of solo Q is right around 50% winrate!
except its not a coincidence. this is what matchmaking is. they rig the games to make sure you win 50%
Vistha Kai1 votesYou contradict yourself.
you are going to lose 50% of your games. that is a fact. matchmaking ensures this.
A "fact".
look up anyone on lolking from bronze to diamond. they all have 50% winrates.
A flat-out lie.
vistha kai - 49% yenn - 48% xxxlumberjackxxx - 48% unseendeath88 - 51% sythriel draken - 42% (bronze 4) nucleophilic atk - 45%
Last time I checked 45% v 42% v 48%=/=50%.
everyone who has posted and has played at least 50 games of solo Q is right around 50% winrate!
A contradiction to all other statements.
except its not a coincidence. this is what matchmaking is. they rig the games to make sure you win 50%
That's what she Zed.
proud and bronze1 votesur obviously very special
Raptamei2 votes[{quoted}](name=proud and bronze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eq9sMt1H,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-02-22T07:50:29.364+0000)
its the truth. look up anyone on lolking from bronze to diamond. they all have 50% winrates. league of legends rigs the games to make sure everyone can only win half.
if you choose your losses it is the only way to win a high % and beat their system. otherwise you will lose half. just like everyone else.
If you play one game and lose, you are in silver with 0% winrate.
Learn to math.
IcyPepper1 votesWell there's a 5/9 chance that a single troll will be on the enemy team, so... balance?
I'm sorry man, it's got to suck. That Hecarim build...
XxxLumberJackxxX1 votesUmmm Counterplay to people selling their items and buying other items?
