I'm Silver 1, but even i know if one team picks off the enemy jungler near baron and the rest of the team is split between top and bot lanes, then you 5 man rush that baron down. But why does no one else seem to realize that? How does it make more sense to not go for baron because you are afraid of a 5v2 fight and you have smite? Are silver junglers and below just afraid to take any objectives at all unless it's 100% pve guarenteed?
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesDepends on those other champions. If it's anyone with TP or some global ability (Not just global movement champs like Shen, TF, and Galio, but also champions with global-range impact such as Ashe, Soraka, and Karthus) that's not really as easy as you'd think. And depending on the two near Baron, if it's someone like Nasus alongside someone who can lock down your team for him to beat on like Leona or Thresh, or you have some other combo of champions fed enough and capable of 2v5ing you, it's incredibly dangerous to go for Baron then because you can still lose it and get wiped. And if it's both combined...
Also even if you can get Baron it might not be worth getting. Defending the inner 5 turrets (nexus and inhib turrets) is generally more important than getting a baron that the enemy team can't even take, and, in a few special cases Elder can be stronger than Baron (If you're looking at something like triple cloud and double infernal, that's a huge amount of power given with an elder, and if it's the second one, it's very possible for it to be worth more than Baron).
Generally my personal priority is first inhib over Baron. Sure Baron's strong and all, but the enemy team having an inhib down makes it easier to get another Baron anyways because now they can't 5v5 at Baron or they risk losing nexus turrets. Or, hell, if you can push fast enough and take turrets easily enough you can just end the game without needing Baron in the first place, whereas going for Baron might make that harder since the enemy team will have time to fight back.
And, of course, just having smite while they don't doesn't mean you're getting Baron. If they fight and kill your jungler, you now have no smite to take it. Or your jungler can mistime smite or accidentally click on an enemy champion, and then a fucking Ornn just walks up and donks it for the cleanest Baron steal ever.
Harrowïng1 votes
Original Sin1 votesCos they're silver after all. They dont know their macro well. You should be shot calling and spam pinging the jungler to come.
Harrowïng1 votesI spam pinged every dragon that came up and the baron. Still got ignored.
ll3lackbeard1 votesPlayed a lot of silver games this year and I am not impressed with jungles at all. One in ten games I will get someone decent but the other nine games I get garbage. Same for the other team. Jungle quality is just bad. With all the changes I think people are just autofilled more in that role.
Harrowïng1 votesI can 100% agree with the autofill. I got autofilled jungle twice in 6 games yesterday.
Pandemic Punch1 votesSilver is all over the place. A lot of first time players can actually place in Silver after their placements. Then you will occasionally have the smurf on a new account who is a Master Tier player....
Harrowïng1 votesSmurfs are just irritating in general. Especially the one tricks who rage quit once their lane doesn't go their way.
The newer players are actually far easier to play with, as long as they can follow pings.
ChaosReyn1 votesOn one hand, pretty much...on the other, there are certain instances that fear is warranted.
But lets be real...more often times than not, it's exactly as you say. They fear making a bad call so much they don't make the call, since junglers are by far the most flamed class in LoL.