2s cd dash AND invisibility, % max hp true damage (wtf??), more mobility then Yasuo, and 1shots you with only 2 items even if you have 500 armor.
Not to mention her players are always dbags that flash their mastery every time they outplay you.
Can we finally get some real nerfs?
Challenger Ahri4 votesI agree buff vayne
fuffychan1 votesI see you got the joke
AFilthyCaitMain2 votesShes fine. Youre also exaggerating BEYOND belief.
MechanicalDraco1 votesVayne main^
AFilthyCaitMain1 votesActually no. Vayne is one of my lesser played ADCs thanks :))))
GULAG 4 U2 votesI am salty
qViolet1 votesShe's not OP, or at least in terms of LCS capability. However, I can imagine her being a problem for ladder, specifically low ELO. This applys not just to Vayne, but other champions like Yasuo etc, any of those supposed face-smash-keyboard champions. The truth is, these champions are very strong when they are fed and generally have specific weaknesses to counter act this. A 10-0 Yasuo can beat nearly any other champion when he's 2 items up. He doesn't need to do fancy E dodges, Q pokes and W blocks, even though he can. While he can be played well, it's not necessary to because how well he scales into items. Vayne is the same problem, and even Yi. I actually think Yi is almost as complex as Riven, but like each other, when fed, face-smashing is all you need.
This problem of low-skill, high-efficiency generally isn't a problem. The problem is that teams and low ELO players don't know of, or don't know how to abuse the weaknesses of these champions. So, inevitably, they get farmed, and trade kills all game, you now have a 10-12 vayne against a 9-6 Lucian, and because you've been dominating them in the lane phase, you all the sudden think you can duel her alone.
The key to beating Vayne is to abuse her weak early game, of which almost all other marksmen can beat her pre6 in a duel, and often post6 with a competent support or normal lead in cs as you should have, then you take your lead to dragons, towers, other lanes, or skirmishes.
However, I do agree with your sentiment a little, but it's not Vayne's problem, it's moreso soloq, and low ELO players. This is why you should always play very strong scaling champions the lower ELO you go because nearly no one knows how to win games off early game power spikes and leads.
So to sum it up, yes, there's a slight problem with Vayne, and a few other champions, but not LCS'wise, so play scaling champions more if you find you or your team cannot win off leads.
Dianna Leveret1 votesVayne is my most hated ADC to play against. Some say she has weak early - i say thats a total lie ! she tumbles and hits you for like 1/3rd of your hp .. If she has a lulu/janna or someone to keep her alive she never loses lane, unless getting camped non stop. A good vayne is such a cancer. I prefer playing vs a 1 trick yasuo - i have easier time countering him , than a vayne with 2 sec cd tumble and invisibility which , thanks to riot amazing idea, can't be spotted with reds now.. she basically has 0 counterplay, except catch her off guard or stunlock her completely.. which is not easy feat, considering her mobility. She was meant to do consistent damage, but new items/masteries made her into a burst champ.. with tumble + shiv , she critted me for like almost full hp.. She is 'just a squishy' ADC thats true .. but i find her more safe than cait,ez .. toooo much tumbles and invisibilities.. a good vayne can easily 1v5 a team.