Is there any chance that we can partially revert darius Noxian might nerfs once cleaver gets changed

Tychusfindlay919·Feb 17, 2017·2 votes·577 views

Yes he'll be a little tankier, but his level 6 is going to feel like absolute shit when you can't even surpass the 300 true damage mark.

I get that riot hated his level 1 cheese for some reason (cuz I'll tell you what that shit doesn't work in plat+ where people aren't potatoes) and waited for over a year to change that, but they nerfed him all the way up to the mid game at level 14. Toning down the nerf and giving him back the ten ad in noxian might at level 6 would be nice in particular if not a full revert.

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ParoeFeb 17, 20171 votes

its like... -10AD and +100HP isnt it? Thats a literal buff for juggernauts and bruisers; the very champions who are meant to be building black cleaver.

300 true damage at level 6 is extremely high though, especially on a bully as effective as darius...

Tychusfindlay919Feb 17, 20171 votes

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its like... -10AD and +100HP isnt it? Thats a literal buff for juggernauts and bruisers; the very champions who are meant to be building black cleaver.

300 true damage at level 6 is extremely high though, especially on a bully as effective as darius...

Considering the effort taken to get up to five stacks, sub-300 true damage is pretty bad.

Also, with cleaver going back to its season five iteration (which I dont object to), this means that on top of the noxian might nerfs which were not present on darius at season five, we'll be left with an overall weaker darius compared to what we had throughout all of season six.

Keep in mind that the previous iteration of darius before the nerfs held a consistent 50% win rate until courage came about. courage has since been balanced.

Big LincolnFeb 17, 20171 votes

it's a net nerf to Darius's damage and it's a nerf to Illaoi in general

not 100% good change for them

Tychusfindlay919Feb 17, 20171 votes

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it's a net nerf to Darius's damage and it's a nerf to Illaoi in general

not 100% good change for them

I'm fine with the net dmg nerf for more HP, I just think it'd be perfect now that cleaver loses ten ad, for noxian might to get back its ten ad that it lost from levels 1-13 to somewhat even the cleaver change out. As it stands, darius will have a horrifically bad level 6 and 11 power spike where before he was decently strong at these points.

AidenJacobsFeb 17, 20171 votes

so make a net buff to an item then buff a user of said item thats in a fine spot. WHY? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Tychusfindlay919Feb 17, 20171 votes

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so make a net buff to an item then buff a user of said item thats in a fine spot. WHY? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

-10 ad + 100 hp is redistribution, not a net buff.

This is the same cleaver we had in season five. But this time around we have a weaker darius than the season five counterpart, and in more ways than just his noxian might nerf. All I'm suggesting is to revert the NM nerf to keep things even. Its still a nerfed darius compared to juggernaut update darius.