Compensation buffs for cait?

Speeedy·1/22/2020, 3:49:51 PM·2 votes·1,332 views

Plat+ (patch 10.1 from u.gg)

  1. Win rate - 50.21% (9th best)
  2. Pick Rate - 25.8%
  3. Ban Rate - 20.2%

Diamond+

  1. Win rate - 49.68% (16th best)
  2. Pick Rate - 22.8%
  3. Ban Rate - 15.8%

Masters+

  1. Win rate - 48.71% (15th best)
  2. Pick Rate - 14.1%
  3. Ban Rate - 5%

Nerfs to cait:

  • Caitlyn no longer gets bonus Headshots by inputting the attack-move command near the target while they are trapped and netted simultaneously (No machine gun cait)
  • Caitlyn can no longer use attack-move to attack trapped or netted targets while she is crowd controlled. (was a bug cause she could in zhonas)
  • STORMRAZOR - TOTAL ATTACK DAMAGE 55 ⇒ 50
  • CLOAK OF AGILITY - CRITICAL STRIKE 25% ⇒ 20%

According to stats last patch she was not OP and got worse as you go up in rank. I understand that the 2nd bug fix was needed because that was broken. The first I do not see as it is skill expression taken out of the game and was not an easy combo to pull off. Since she got 1 direct nerf and 2 indirect can we get a compensation buff?

Possible buffs (Done independently):

  1. AS growth - this will give her a better late game to make up for the crit loss
  2. Base AS up - I dont feel she needs damage so making other parts a bit better to make HS stack quickly

16 Comments

Jimmy Rustles1/22/2020, 4:00:57 PM4 votes

She's a problematic champion is why

If yoy think one of, if not the highest playrates ADC should also hold a good winrate as well, along side a high ban rate is 100% balanced you're not thinking straight

Win rate alone means nothing, pick rate alone means nothing ban rate alone means nothing

All 3 shown there shows how she is a problem champion, so she shouldn't get a buff for an OP item being nerfed and a fix for her

Düff McWhalen1/22/2020, 4:02:08 PM3 votes

Cait with a tanky engage support is untouchable. Fuck Cait, she deserves the dumpster.

nm10101/22/2020, 4:24:02 PM2 votes

I mean, this was kind of needed since she could almost 100-0 people at level 3 with Morgana. But damn was watching Saber hype as fuck, I will miss that busted shit.

https://youtu.be/MjteWSVxgn4?t=36

Quáx1/22/2020, 4:33:46 PM2 votes

So I'm aware you're a Cait main, which is why I'm gonna keep this short. The fact it, Cait has been a pretty powerful ADC for around a month and a half now, regardless of winrate she's still strong, and with certain supports, you will be unable to reach her. I definitely think she should get nerfs, and no compensation buffs since the nerfs don't hammer her super hard.

The thigh guy1/22/2020, 3:51:25 PM2 votes

It’s because all people did was complain then they tried to run face first at her and it didn’t work.

Summoner SpeII1/22/2020, 3:50:40 PM1 votes

this is what she deserves after her unnecessary buffs

Insanityplus1/25/2020, 6:39:00 PM1 votes

As an adc main in solo q (no duo) I really had a lot of fun with the caitlyn combos. It was the best part of league. It gave me something exciting to work on that felt really good and exciting to execute in game. Was it a bit broken? Yes but I feel like it could have been balanced around. You already had to itemize differently to make best use of it which made you more vulnerable to things like armor stacking and tank comps if you committed to the build. A couple of tweaks and you could have had a really cool rewarding mechanically intensive champion that was easy to learn due to her base kit but difficult to master because of the combo potential. I am sad that it was taken away because practicing it was a ton of fun and made playing caitlyn feel different and interesting when compared to other adcs. Practicing the other things in the game (macro etc.) just doesn't feel as satisfying when you pull it off. You win sure, but landing the perfect caitlyn combo felt amazing and i will miss that.

Posui Gart1/22/2020, 3:57:07 PM1 votes

Bugfixes are bugfixes, they are not supposed to count as balance changes Stormrazor is just 1 item, and cloak is just another item. Cait was ok before current stormrazor, and will be ok after nerfs Unless she becomes worse than Kog, I don't see a problem

Almaterrador1/22/2020, 4:19:53 PM1 votes

I don't see any reason why Cait would need a buff after these changes.

splendido1/22/2020, 4:28:22 PM1 votes

Why would you want a buff for Cait? Many champions suffer even harder than her in the bot lane and are in need of buffs much more than Caitlyn. Caitlyn has always been a lane bully, but right now I feel like she's sitting in the best place she's been in for a while.

ZephyrDrake1/22/2020, 4:52:38 PM1 votes

how about you wait to see where these bugfixes make her land and then buff her where she is needed instead of randomly buffing her because she is unable to do something that was considered to be a bug? aka something not intentional?