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Can we please do something about Maw?

Yenn··8 votes·1,098 views

Currently playing Lux mid vs. Riven mid who rushed Maw.

If she touches me once, I need to blow both summoners or I die. If she flashes into me, I die, period; my summoners won't save me.

If I somehow catch her in a binding and perfectly combo her (Q > R > Auto > E > Auto), she survives and recovers 50% of her health on the minion wave.

There is literally no way for me to punish her because she built one item. I have to play the lane perfectly and never get anywhere near her, while she can fuck up her E dodges on bindings left and right and take no punishment, and there's no item I can build to survive her combo; Hourglass will just delay my death.

How about increasing the cooldown on Maw to something reasonable, so it doesn't just brainlessly remove all counter play for most AP champions? It's dumb to have an item that just automatically saves someone from their fuck up with no drawback every 90 seconds.

10 Comments

CFGnoah4 votes

I don't feel like maw is a huge problem tbh. If you are playing lux into riven you literally should never die to that ever just because you have q and e to kite while also using your w and im assuming you have flash ontop of either ghost or barrier.

Maw stops burst mages from 100-0ing them early in the game and makes them have to use 2 rotation of abilities to score a kill (same with melee).

SoundChaosDebug2 votes

Or you could play something besides an immobile mage vs a mobile champ.

ChaddyFantome2 votes

If she touches me once,

Stopped reading.

How the bloody hell is she touching you tho?!?! You are Lux, you literally can just throw E's from 2 screens away and Q if she even dares gets near you.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

while maw is too strong, lux can outpoke riven i think

CFGnoah1 votes

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while maw is too strong, lux can outpoke riven i think

This. Riven has a hard time engaging onto Lux because of her Q and E and 90% of Lux players run with Barrier/Ghost/Heal making it even harder to all in her.

Yenn2 votes

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This. Riven has a hard time engaging onto Lux because of her Q and E and 90% of Lux players run with Barrier/Ghost/Heal making it even harder to all in her.

The problem is that Riven's existence denies CS. Until you finish your Necronomicon, an E will leave the caster minions at 10-20 health. One hit from any of your minions will kill them. You cannot get in range to hit them without risking Riven jumping on you, so you potentially lose half of every wave to your minions randomly deciding to switch to a low caster minion.

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Stopped reading.

How the bloody hell is she touching you tho?!?! You are Lux, you literally can just throw E's from 2 screens away and Q if she even dares gets near you.

If Riven gets hit by any of Lux's abilities, it's because Riven is bad, period. There's no other reason. If you bound her from melee range (in the event that the Riven is, once again, bad, and didn't anticipate your Q), she's also in range to stun you, so you're losing most of your binding and you're not getting away after.

CFGnoah1 votes

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The problem is that Riven's existence denies CS. Until you finish your Necronomicon, an E will leave the caster minions at 10-20 health. One hit from any of your minions will kill them. You cannot get in range to hit them without risking Riven jumping on you, so you potentially lose half of every wave to your minions randomly deciding to switch to a low caster minion.

If Riven gets hit by any of Lux's abilities, it's because Riven is bad, period. There's no other reason. If you bound her from melee range (in the event that the Riven is, once again, bad, and didn't anticipate your Q), she's also in range to stun you, so you're losing most of your binding and you're not getting away after.

actually lux should be the one denying riven cs due to her range. there is 0 reason you should have problems in that matchup unless you get outplayed and just suck at hitting q.. you literally can use q while shes in mid animation of her own q towards you.

Get good.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

The problem is not Maw, but Riven. You can win lane before your first back. Later you are just a free kill.

agbudar1 votes

you should not be dying to a riven as lux mid tbh

Genocide Victim1 votes

Lux mid in 2016 LUL

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