Revert the swain rework

KirbyCake·1/17/2019, 4:51:01 PM·16 votes·2,818 views

Now that riot is reverting some of the reworks, revert the swain rework completely.

His playrate is lower than before his rework and a total failure because nobody wants to play him now. He is a generic spam mage that is trash playing with 3 abilities and his ult being much weaker than before. They basically made him into a garbage version of vlad.

Also his previous lore and character is much better than whatever he is now.

23 Comments

AIQ1/17/2019, 5:57:56 PM3 votes

Wait people don't like the new Swain? JK

I think Swain is better off with his new kit. I personally am a fan of his versatility. He scales very smoothly and E is good for play making. W is not useless, but not great for all scenarios. "Healthy."

The best things is that he can move his zone of threat unlike before when it was tied to Beatrice, the W required you to only put it where you could then put Beatrice down or had her down. The damage debuff was just a point and click emphasizing the zones potential even more. Of course, this relates only to the base kit. I don't think you are talking about the ult as they are pretty much the same.

GreenKnight1/17/2019, 5:34:26 PM2 votes

Prepare for downvotes, people hate different opinions here.

Febos1/17/2019, 4:55:18 PM2 votes

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Also his previous lore and character is much better than whatever he is now.

I don't like to discuss gameplay, but this is where I come in.

Are we talking about the same Swain here? What lore did he have before?

Charmy Bird1/17/2019, 7:00:33 PM2 votes

yea lets pretend old swain was good. he had a godawful design that made him look like a joke and his kit was straight up dumb.

5050BS1/17/2019, 9:41:37 PM2 votes

Keep the skin changes and the way his Ult looks but ya I prefer the old over the new.

Agent Corgi1/18/2019, 3:05:51 AM2 votes

Don't agree with your opinion, but it's ok if you don't like new swain. There are some that hate him, but there's an extremely vast majority (including myself) that love him where he is now.

WeeWeeBojangles1/17/2019, 9:38:30 PM1 votes

Honestly i can't remember his old passive. His old kit wasn't bad other than his q just being godawful. His W was an aoe root. His e was a point and click damage amplifier which did a small amount of damage on its own. And I actually really liked his old toggle ult.

AlexisTheDragon4/5/2019, 12:38:48 PM1 votes

Ah all those downvotes, downvoting the only sane man left on earth.

It's hard to live in a world of fools huh? They always outvote you and everything remains sh!t.

Then they complain everything is sh!t and don't realize it's them giving it all the thumbs up.

TheCrazyPerson804/10/2019, 2:44:48 PM1 votes

The old Swain was better in my opinion. You could zone hard with his q and increase his damage with e. His ult was also a lot better. It healed more and did way more damage than his current one. Plus his new ult is so easy to dodge and people just run away and kite it out. At least revert his ult.

KyraSun1/18/2019, 8:32:51 AM1 votes

Sorry, what? I quite like the swain rework, it's such a nice kit and very creative. Do think that people spend ALOT of time on these reworks and telling them to just revert it is just straight up a douchebag thing to say.

Sukishoo1/18/2019, 3:34:26 PM1 votes

They don't revert VGUs. Only gameplay updated champions were reverted, such as LeBlanc, Rengar and Kog. Those were not Visual and Gameplay updated champions, like Swain, who gained significant changes that came with brand new animations for his abilities.

IOffMeta GtOvrIt1/17/2019, 5:34:23 PM1 votes

I can understand your concerns with his gameplay but his new lore is pretty sweet. I'm just not sure how their current kit for him (besides W which mildly represents that thematic) fits into the idea of a 'Master Tactician'.

Kairoptra1/17/2019, 6:50:36 PM1 votes

Riot doesn’t revert VGUs like Swain; only GUs like Rengar and Leblanc.

big Papa swain2/24/2019, 9:30:05 PM1 votes

just revert his ult and give him a bird