Yes finally someone see this. Player who plays them say they're balance, but no skill is require,
I just had a game where I was Jax, went 5-2 vs. a tryndamere both of us around 20 min have 180-190 cs, now we lost that game because once he gets Shiv and part of IE or IE, he wrecks anything anywhere,
I'm just giving an example of what player normally does, you can just skip this next paragraph and go to the main point.
I couldn't even 1v1 him, his ulti last too long, I'm farming, he fights me if I run I die or suffer huge damage, so I fight and bring him to 1 still can't run because he can dive, now he for some reason have an overload kit where he gets free AD, free Crit and an ulti that won't let him die with a heal. no mana cost, item that boost his kit even more, and a gap closer that has free CD reduction which makes it a gap closer that is around 4-5 second, and now we add in his CC, a slow and AD reduction, who else has a kit this loaded, even Yasuo and Fiora with overloaded kit don't come to this or can handle him, and I'm top of course I have TP instead of ignite,
and his kit allow a play style that is ridiculous, overloaded with damage, even in a losing lane, once you take his tower, even while ahead, he can stay top push nonstop than Spin away, this also comes to the point where yeah, we can invest our resources to put him behind, but he's top, this opens up the chance for the enemy team to take dragon or another tower, and Riot please correct me if I"m wrong, is there a champ that can handle him 1v1 or just stop his push, Malphite can tank him, but he can't stop his push undertower, you can wave clear and have turrent attack and stop him but he'll just e away than come back and now you're stuck in a loop where he out heals you and out damage you, now do you sent resources to stop him, waste a tele to save the outter turrent or inner turrent and potentially give up an objective or no.
A jungler can come, you flank him but of course he's warded up before doing this, see, even if he didn't, there's only a few jungler who can stop him in his track, but he can flash and e away, now do the jungler camp top and let the other lane handle themself or no.
Well the MAIN POINT is if they don't nerf anything, might as well at least nerf his ulti. Just because he's name after one of Riot's bosses don't mean he need a 5 second ulti that makes him unkillable while overloaded with a kit that is unneeded, 3 second is fair enough, he can already stack 35% crit chance freely, now the once he ulti he gets a huge boost in AD too which allows him to just win trades because of the 35% crit chance now combine with the new mastery and at least either die and take the enemy with him or kills them outright. They can just remove a few of the stuff in the kit that's not needed since it's free stats, but Riot's been making such weird changes recently. Fiora in every game, Daruis before nerf in every rank game, I'm scare they might not do a good job.