Can we add one more item to Orrn?

Paroe··1 votes·627 views

Now before you downvote because i want to say item 3147, hear me out. Assassins are early to mid game champions who often resort to buying crit in order to do their job in the late game.

Can we add duskblade to Orrn and give it;

  1. Extra damaging effects from items count as a crit
  2. Duskblade converts critical strike chance into AD (At a 1:1 ratio)

This DRAMATICALLY increases dusk blades proper use and lets assassins do their job better without breaking the item entirely or making it absurdly toxic.

Edit; Changed the first bit to extra damaging effects from items

17 Comments

Variks the Loyal2 votes

Ghostblade would be better.

Paroe1 votes

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Ghostblade would be better.

Yeah but what would add on it? More movement speed that doesnt decay?

Variks the Loyal1 votes

The upgraded items aren't supposed to get new effects or anything, just number boosts. So probably more AD, more Lethality, and more Movement Speed on the active or a lower CD.

Paroe1 votes

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The upgraded items aren't supposed to get new effects or anything, just number boosts. So probably more AD, more Lethality, and more Movement Speed on the active or a lower CD.

Is that confirmed?

Variks the Loyal1 votes

It's not confirmed that Ghostblade is an upgrade, but it is confirmed that the upgrades will not add any new effects.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

But doing this change makes the item absurdly toxic.

Ralanr1 votes

Why not ghostblade?

Muzét1 votes
  1. Duskblades damage proc counts as crit
  1. Duskblade converts critical strike chance into AD (At a 1:1 ratio)

THAT'S A MARKSMAN BUFF. DON'T DISGUISE IT AS AN ASSASSIN BUFF. LIAR. GET READY TO GET HANGED. WITCHCRAFT.

Paroe1 votes

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  1. Duskblade converts critical strike chance into AD (At a 1:1 ratio)

THAT'S A MARKSMAN BUFF. DON'T DISGUISE IT AS AN ASSASSIN BUFF. LIAR. GET READY TO GET HANGED. WITCHCRAFT.

Most assassins build item 3147 item 3031 item 3087 item 3142.
By making duskblades proc crits (ONLY the proc on items) it gets effected by IEs passive and also removes the psuedo RNG which allows assassins to better perform their job.

Muzét1 votes

Most? Rengar sometimes build IE because his ult gives him a free GUARANTEED crit. (And now he's played bruiser anyway) Talon could buy it (but well I saw some do it a few times after his update but that's it) but he doesn't anymore. Kha'Zix doesn't, Zed doesn't... So na most assassins doesn't build item 3031 and even less item 3087

Don't give Vayne Twitch (and other marksmens but specially those two) - and mf who has crit scaling on her Q and her ult - antoher reason to go lethality.

Paroe1 votes

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Most? Rengar sometimes build IE because his ult gives him a free GUARANTEED crit. (And now he's played bruiser anyway) Talon could buy it (but well I saw some do it a few times after his update but that's it) but he doesn't anymore. Kha'Zix doesn't, Zed doesn't... So na most assassins doesn't build item 3031 and even less item 3087

Don't give Vayne Twitch (and other marksmens but specially those two) - and mf who has crit scaling on her Q and her ult - antoher reason to go lethality.

Kayn Talon MasterYi

Meep Man1 votes

Not sure on Kayn and Talon... Master Yi sure though, but not sure he builds Duskblade...

Paroe1 votes

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Not sure on Kayn and Talon... Master Yi sure though, but not sure he builds Duskblade...

A lot of assassins can and are increasingly building IE/shiv because of the huge burst potential. Especially really safe ones. Kha'zix is more on the diver-ee side of the assassin spectrum, with his normal items being duskblade, deadmans plate, and black cleaver.

Muzét1 votes

Na it isn't optimal you'll gain more from item 3147 item 3814 item 3142 item 3071 item 3812 deleting carries with what you use more often: Spells being able to shred tanks (at least more than a simple scratch) and have some sustain all-ining. At least I prefer these kind of build.

(I'm not counting Yi he isn't a real assassin)

Meep Man1 votes

I think Ghostblade would be better since it's still a signature Assassin item that isn't terrifying to think about if it was stronger for extra gold.

Nixtarma1 votes

Ornn's items do not get new abilities.

HeresyHorus1 votes

If Ornn can increase its passive item 3031 will be much better for assassins than item 3147 for damage, trust me.

Its piss easy to get the 10% CDR from other items and full lethality build is overrated anyway so u wont miss that 18 lethality that much as only 2 items + item 3035are enough.

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