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MYMU Discussion

Slythion··1 votes·991 views
Mid-Season Magic - Mage updates, itemization changes, Elemental Dragons, and much more!

Hey everyone! Slythion here and I was curious on your guy's thoughts, be praise or condemnation, on the MYMU notes released. How do you think "X" champion will interact with the game environments? How does "Y" change help with flaws in the game? Will it create new issues? How satisfied are you with this update?

Keep in mind that there hasn't been nearly enough time to judge everything to be an absolute, remain open to new ideas and viewpoints and let us dissect this update together boards :)

Personally, I love the dragon changes and think it's a great way to push for early pressure on that drag to escape the "let's just get it later" mentality. Seeing how Elderwood Dragon buffs all previous buffs really puts the pressure on to starve the enemy from a massive buff late game. My issue with it is that I'm worried weak early game junglers will fall behind (Sejuani Udyr Zac ) as they can't compete as hard and are more likely to fall behind in drags, creating an exponential power difference as the enemy gets drags and increases the potential buff from Elderwood.

Also...Malz Voidlings should probably only spawn on hitting champions and epic monsters, unless you really wanted to create Malz jungle which I'm not personally keen on.

Your guy's thoughts?

21 Comments

M0b1us1 votes

Mage updates seem nice, but the item changes** if they are the same as when they were on the PBE** before are absolute garbage. Straight up nerfs everywhere for insanely situational passives. RoA for example is losing about 400 HP, and to heal 400 HP you need to spend ludicrous amounts of mana. Zhonya's is getting nerfed in every single stat and the active CD is being increased by 30 seconds.

I would love to be excited for the MYMU, but the proposed item changes are overwhelmingly bad.

Slythion1 votes

They are trading raw stats for utility, so while the primary "dominate" ap items are receiving raw stat nerfs they are adding many utility buffs to other items. I feel as though they are simply taking the power from the major items and distributing them elsewhere, I could be wrong.

There's plenty of time to make changes to the items as well too

M0b1us2 votes

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They are trading raw stats for utility, so while the primary "dominate" ap items are receiving raw stat nerfs they are adding many utility buffs to other items. I feel as though they are simply taking the power from the major items and distributing them elsewhere, I could be wrong.

There's plenty of time to make changes to the items as well too

RoA is getting a heal per mana spent and mana regen when hit. That isn't utility. You would have to spend outrageous amounts of mana and get hit all the time to match the current stats and heal of RoA. Zhonya's is getting everything heavily nerfed, for 10% CDR. Not really utility alone. Morello-thing no longer has mana regen, but gains mana. No change to utility. Unholy grail only gains utility with champions with a shield. So there is some utility there.

So your idea of trading raw stats for utility only holds true for a single item. These items are being nerfed.

Slythion1 votes

I was more talking about the new items + the (bad) compensation for the main item nerfs equal eachother out imo. There's no way to tell until we see more gameplay though

Woook3r1 votes

Sorry. Ur just going to have to build velcoz pure tank and rely on the free 1k true dmg from his ult. Thats going to be the meta, obviously.

ICANTFEELMYLEGS1 votes

I am personally really happy with new Cass. Her new passive fits so well thematically, and her new W is the epitome of anti mobility! I'm really excited for this update!

Woook3r1 votes

Full tank velcoz incoming. prepare butthole. full tank malzahar incoming. prepare butthole. Annie with mobility and insane tibbers, incoming. prepare butthole. Full tank viegar top. prepare butthole.

QSS NO LONGER AFFECTS ZED ULT. Prepare butthole.

MYMU. Prepare butthole. MYMU. Prepare butthole. MYMU. Prepare butthole.

Slythion1 votes

What about qss and Zed? When was this mentioned?

Woook3r1 votes

Idk man its going on the pbe. Qss no longer affects anything but cc. Zed is getting buffed even though he sits at a 50%+ ban rate. And pple have recently told me I dont know about balance.

Slythion1 votes

Hm, that seems a bit off I'm not sure how Riot will compensate for that but we'll see

Woook3r1 votes

U. R. Sheep.

Full respect tho. Gl. HF.

Slythion1 votes

Eh, I find it hard to believe Riot would allow something like that to go unchanged but I suppose some people are more critical than myself

Woook3r1 votes

That is why you are sheep.

You know riot sold itself to a japanese company right? Thats why vel'coz got the most massive buff ever. Fucking tentacles.

Slythion1 votes

Uh...lol. I don't appreciate being called a sheep simply because my opinion favors Riot. Sure, we may have different opinions, but either Riot fixes it or they wait...screw up...and then fix it. A sheep is someone who has blind faith in Riot with no logic to back it up

Woook3r1 votes

no. its because you arent critical. dont want to comment further. too mean sounding.

Slythion1 votes

I can recognize something is a bad idea and expect Riot to fix it, removing the debuff part of qss without giving compensation against Zed seems too stupid for me to believe that it will be allowed on the live servers. You don't have to be critical if you expect it to be fixed already

Woook3r1 votes

if they were smart enough to fix it, why the fuck would they do it in the first place?

Slythion1 votes

Because the PBE is there to test options and seeing how change "X" effects "Y". It is possible to implement a bad thing for data on what to change to balance it. Let them use the PBE for testing (as intended) without getting so worked up about it

Woook3r1 votes

the pbe is a SHITHOLE. 200 ms ping times are the norm. bronze plays with pants r dragon. how to test? PBE environment is moonbounce funhouse Na-Nu Na-Nu Shazbot! Why else do you think the balance is the way it is? They are testing it with the PBE. Thats why. Quality of information from PBE is 0!

Memelord NaCl1 votes

The Syndra Passive changes were really disappointing cause Riot said they didn't want her passive to be useless until lvl 9, and they did nothing to change it. All they did was lower her skill cap and make a max sphere ultimate super easy.

Slythion1 votes

That is kind of a let-down I agree

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