"The item effectively adds another nuke spell on top of kits that are already designed to have strong up-front damage and aggravates the "whoa, I got one shot out of nowhere" frustration of playing against certain champions."
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Dominnion3 votesI'm not really seeing how youmuu's and BoRK are comparable to DFG
4nth0l0gy1 votes
Unique: Deals 15% of target champion's maximum health in magic damage and applies the debuff, Doom. Doom amplifies all magic damage that champion takes by 20% for 4 seconds. 90 second cooldown (750 range).
Unique: Drains target champion, dealing 10% of the target's maximum health in physical damage (min. 100) and healing you for the damage dealt.
Unique: Your attacks deal 8% of the target's current health in physical damage.
is included because it also creates silly strong burst scenarios, the difference being that it only amplifies the user of the item.
Dedrius2 votesI agree, Although BOTRK isn't as good as DFG, it is still the same concept and has similar attributes. I think deleting DFG will make a lot of burst mages become much less playable.
4nth0l0gy1 votesI'm mostly trying to highlight the inconsistency in logic of removing one burst item but not others that have very similar effects on different champions.
If you're going to keep one, doesn't it make sense to keep both and maybe instead nerf the one that is being problematic?
Jamaree1 votes[{quoted}](name=CC Shepherd,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eh6lgAI9,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-01-15T22:04:36.780+0000)
"The item effectively adds another nuke spell on top of kits that are already designed to have strong up-front damage and aggravates the "whoa, I got one shot out of nowhere" frustration of playing against certain champions."
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Zed, loses to Zhonya, ADCs, are ADCs, Yasou and Talon don't get played anymore because of the nerfs.
Leti the Yeti1 votesZed, loses to Zhonya
and only Zed is allowed to use Zhonyas as an excuse
Jamaree2 votesand only Zed is allowed to use Zhonyas as an excuse
Literally every assassin post I see now adays says "Oh, Assassins are weak because Zhonya is a thing." I'm not allowed to use that logic now why?
Leti the Yeti2 votesif something counters everything Its not exactly a weakness exclusive to a certain champ and it shouldnt be used in the first place and atm the only assassins mentioning zhonya is Zed lol
4nth0l0gy2 votes"removing [] gives us room to buff champion kits that would otherwise be overpowered if they could use DFG."
I wonder if maybe , and might have been nerfed recently because they were often too strong with and/or .
RadiantWings1 votesYou forgot Tiamat/Hydra
SouL1ess1 votesI expected Lich Bane, but I guess Ghostblade is a much more problematic item than Lich Bane is....
Done251 votesThe big difference is that DFG is a long range item. Brand can use it to ambush you from a brush while you can't see him.