If Riven HAD to be changed in some way, what would you do to her?

WoonStruck·Jul 29, 2019·1 votes·1,809 views

Riven's become more of a hot topic than usual due to her abnormally high numbers at higher MMR.

If Riot had to adjust her in some way, what change would you make?

I think one of the best fixes for her would be to make it so you only get stacks of her passive if her Q W or R hit a champion and if E blocks damage from a champion.

Would make her less stat-checky, since she often engages by wasting E and 2 Qs.
She'd still have OP damage when engaged on or when she has strong positioning advantage.
She'd still have strong damage if she lands Q3, W, and blocks a shot with E.
Also encourages players to play more 'optimally' by using her R2 after mid-fight (damage caps) for another stack, since they aren't as free, instead of as a last hit.
Makes the Riven player play smarter.
Keeps everything else people love/hate about Riven.

14 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonJul 29, 20193 votes

Honestly? I'd like to see her animation cancels go, and be replaced by combos. WE cancel? Replaced by something functionally identical, but with an animation to match the change. Fast Q would have a different animation than regular Q. Tooltips (such as W: Ki Burst W>E: Stun enemies and dash at the same time, gaining a shield. Would be an actually good use of shift hiding things) could be created to help newer Riven players understand her easier, and help people who just want to learn to deal with her learn what she can do.

It'd offer knowledge on her that didn't require a wiki. Doesn't need to tell you the exact timings to pull off each combo or show you how to do it, exactly, just what buttons need to be pressed and the order they should be pressed in. And, of course, different animations for the combo from the regular ability.

AstroFerrari Jul 29, 20192 votes

I know they'll probably never nerf her damage (the PBE is full of damage buffs haha) so i think she'd be more tolerable her CDs were more punishable

SuicidePlankJul 29, 20192 votes

Fix the Bug, which now makes her who she is, her Animation Canceling. That's what makes her so hard to balance, since new/bad players can't do it and decrease her Winrate, while good Players with her escalate.

WoonStruckJul 29, 20191 votes

IIRC Riot said they wouldn't do that because of the massive backlash they'd get from the changes.

I do agree it would help balance her the most though.

SuicidePlankJul 29, 20192 votes

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IIRC Riot said they wouldn't do that because of the massive backlash they'd get from the changes.

I do agree it would help balance her though.

It was shit to begin with to make it 'her thing'. They thought it would be a cool gimmick and preserved the bug and you see, Riven has always been healthy for the game afterwards. :))

DuskDaUmbreonJul 29, 20192 votes

Yeah, but at this point it's not really feasible.

It'd be like the Aatrox backlash but actually justified, since Riven has an actual playerbase and it's not just a bunch of people screeching because a champion got reworked and pretending to be an upset main despite having played them only once while drunk in ARAM, just because they hate any form of change.

Riven will always have to have combos, because that is a huge part of her design. Even if reworked, she'll have to have combos.

SuicidePlankJul 29, 20191 votes

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Yeah, but at this point it's not really feasible.

It'd be like the Aatrox backlash but actually justified, since Riven has an actual playerbase and it's not just a bunch of people screeching because a champion got reworked and pretending to be an upset main despite having played them only once while drunk in ARAM, just because they hate any form of change.

Riven will always have to have combos, because that is a huge part of her design. Even if reworked, she'll have to have combos.

IDC about combos, but getting stunlocked and losing all your HP in it, because muh ANIMATION CANCELING.

Darkdemon653Jul 29, 20192 votes

Conqueror now interacts properly with her Q
No casts or attacks can be performed on any champion while in the process of a cast or ability animation

That's all I would do for now. I would wait to see what those do.

Jesi OniJul 29, 20191 votes

I would give her free revive (GA) because she is better version of Aatrox anyway...

SuicidePlankJul 29, 20193 votes

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I would give her free revive (GA) because she is better version of Aatrox anyway...

Aatrox doesn't even has his Revive anymore.

Jesi OniJul 30, 20191 votes

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Aatrox doesn't even has his Revive anymore.

Yeah... She is better version so she should get it while they removed it from him!

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LordGeovanniJul 29, 20191 votes

Changer her ratios 65% bonus ad for Q ratio W 80% total ad E 70% Id also make all her Spells cooldowns start after they have all been fully used (like after 3rd q's full animation) and after rivens second R.

She needs longer late game cooldowns so she isnt so busted with item 3071 too.

wa wa wa she wont play the same yes thats the point of nerfing the busted champion

Zed geniusJul 30, 20191 votes

Add a cooldown to her E.

GabresolJul 30, 20191 votes

Turn her stun into a disarm (she is too mobile to also have chain SS),
Remove the AD scaling from her shield (6 sec cdr on 215 is more than enough),
Changer her passive to only apply stacks when hitting units (She can literally run round fully stacked at all times in late)
Remove Spear of Shojin
Make her movement and attacks slower, but stronger when she ults (so it actualy feels like she has a giant sword)