im gonna get hate for this, but i dont think you should buff poppy right now.

Critmaster Garen··3 votes·1,950 views

atmas is about to be rereleased, and shes going to be one of the biggest benefactors of that item.

if youre increasing poppys ad ratios of all things with the same patch, i dont even want to think of what shes going to do with 300 ad later on.

wait at least 1 patch please to see how those item changes play out.

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KING OF MASKS2 votes

an anti-Poppy thread?? time to downvo...

actually, that sounds really reasonable.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=KING OF MASKS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EgaEq19W,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-08T12:31:25.754+0000)

an anti-Poppy thread?? time to downvo...

actually, that sounds really reasonable.

well. not really anti-poppy, and more like. lets wait and see 1 more patch.

PopcornBunni2 votes

Poppy stacks resistances, not health. Atmas isn't going to help her for the same reason she doesn't build Titanic.

Her damage comes from sheen procs. Lowering Q cooldown is the only way to really increase that without affecting her pre-sheen clear.

PoppyTheWerewolf1 votes

:)

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Poppy stacks resistances, not health.

you can easily do both, and atmas itself grants resistances. if you get sunfire cape, randuins and a healtrh/mr item, youre already pretty beefy.

i think the item is going to synergize pretty well with her. im not sure, buffing her in the same patch is a good idea.

Vlada Cut1 votes

Yay time to go Tri-tank with atmas as Poppy. Swiggity swoogy comin' for da top lane booty. [sg-syndra]

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Yay time to go Tri-tank with atmas as Poppy. Ohhh top lane I'm coming for da booty. [sg-syndra]

i dont think we need another tank juggernaut running around. chogath was already bullshit enough.

if poppy is still trash after 8.12, then fine. buff her. but id rather they wait until they see what the itemization changes do for her.

it may be even neccessary to change some of her scalings to ap. otherwise it could get a bit crazy with her.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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i dont think we need another tank juggernaut running around. chogath was already bullshit enough.

if poppy is still trash after 8.12, then fine. buff her. but id rather they wait until they see what the itemization changes do for her.

it may be even neccessary to change some of her scalings to ap. otherwise it could get a bit crazy with her.

I was joking lol. But I would like to see how strong her q will be now that full tank Poppy can buy a tank item that actually give's her ad.

Anags1 votes

Pretty sure the old OP Poppy wouldn't even be that strong in the games current state.

PoppyTheWerewolf1 votes

We need more Buffs on poppy ty riot love you poppy mains*[poppy-wink]*

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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We need more Buffs on poppy ty riot love you poppu mains*[poppy-wink]*

atmas is already going to be a buff. poppy is a tank, and is going into pretty beefy builds.

but since she scales with ad, it makes atmas a pretty viable choice on her. im just afraid shes going to turn into a tank with juggernaut damage similar to cho.

with a .9 ad ratio, she could deal a good 300 damage with just her e after a couple seconds in combat, followed by 400 damage on her q.

her auto attacks also can do ~ 300 damage with a stacked atmas at that point, which applies to her shield.

thats a LOT of burst for a tank.

PoppyTheWerewolf2 votes

she is a juggernaut TBH :/ its normal

PoppyTheWerewolf1 votes

alright alright enough from those unlike lul, she's not a juggernaut are you happy now? like you are talking to the purest main poppy in the face of the Earth. google me.

chipndip11 votes

Anyone that goes into heavy AD as Poppy is stupid.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Anyone that goes into heavy AD as Poppy is stupid.

atmas is a fighter item that gives up to 2.5% of your maximum health as ad. it also has a couple defensive stats.

at 4000 health and 5 seconds in combat, youd get 125 ad from the item.

you dont need to build full ad on poppy to get a lot of ad. you can build 4 big health/defensive items and get atmas. this is fine for slow fighters like darius, garen, illaoi and even urgot etc. but poppy is a lot more mobile than them and has a lot more utility to work with.

granted, its a mid/lategame item, but it still synergizes well with her. im just saying we should maybe wait 1 patch to see what it does before buffing her on top of it.

chipndip11 votes

Poppy is an early game champ. If you build this item, you gain practically nothing from it because her critical points in the game as an offensive champ are laning and a few skirmishes after that. Once you transition to mid-game and beyond, she's focused on peel rather than knocking someone out.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Poppy is an early game champ. If you build this item, you gain practically nothing from it because her critical points in the game as an offensive champ are laning and a few skirmishes after that. Once you transition to mid-game and beyond, she's focused on peel rather than knocking someone out.

she can still make flash e engages and generally a lot of plays around mid and lategame. atmas would allow her to remain a threat later on.

i dont know. im not saying dont buff her. im saying wait 1 patch and see what the item does on her. you cant tell me it doesnt fit into her build. shes a tank, which means shes gonna end up stacking a lot of health (even if its health/resist items like item 3143 ). the item itself has resistances which she wants. since her abilities scale with ad, it pretty much fits her like a glove.

chipndip11 votes

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she can still make flash e engages and generally a lot of plays around mid and lategame. atmas would allow her to remain a threat later on.

The need to ram someone into a wall for her E to work as an engage negates any attempt at keeping strong on offensive past laning phase and a few river/jg fights. The point is null.

i dont know. im not saying dont buff her. im saying wait 1 patch and see what the item does on her. you cant tell me it doesnt fit into her build. shes a tank, which means shes gonna end up stacking a lot of health (even if its health/resist items like item 3143 ). the item itself has resistances which she wants. since her abilities scale with ad, it pretty much fits her like a glove.

She's a tank...so she doesn't give a shit about AD in most cases. Like...you're answering your questions here.

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