Elder drag's agro is very weird

The Deckowner··30 votes·1,673 views

often times when you peel off elder drake, it start regening hp super fast but still hitting people nonstop. Sometimes even when you are in the pit fighting it, it just randomly starts regening for no reason despite taking dmg and doing dmg.

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Pikmints12 votes

Are you sure that it's a matter of aggro? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon

The Elder Dragon not only has a huge health pool, but gets upwards of 190 Armor and 110 magic resist to compliment its natural 50 health regeneration every 1 second. I've seen teams leave their tank to finish off an Elder Dragon just to have it heal more damage than a tank can deal while chipping away at the tank due to this natural bulk.

Jet Sett1 votes

Yeah, Elder drag is not something you just fight without lots of dps.

General Esdeath 2 votes

No, sometimes it gets the reset HP gain even if you're hitting it.

Terchio1 votes

I second that. I felt like I must've imagined it, or hit a super weird bug or something, but I was near certain dragon started regenning at the rate he does when he returns home, despite being attacked and dealing damage. Not sure if it has to do with switching aggro, but I'm pretty sure I saw it happen, as well.

Jesus is Savior5 votes

Meanwhile regular dragon still doesn't even have a patience bar, but Rift Herald does.

#clarity

SwiftKitten884 votes

yeah idk it has crazy regen DURING the fight..

The Yetii Rider3 votes

Elder dragon is supposed to be the most contestible objective in the game. The team that's winning is the team that's going to have more dragons, and that team is therefore going to have more stacks of Ancient Grudge. Ancient Grudge makes taking Elder Dragon next to impossible. Even with Nunu, Trundle or Skarner you're still going to be going at that thing for a full 15 seconds at 45 minutes. And if you get interrupted, it starts to reset instantly, to give the enemy team plenty of time to fight you so that it can be stolen.

Elder dragon deals next to no damage, so it's much easier to fight it for extended periods of time than Baron is. The boss is the enemy team, not him.

The Deckowner1 votes

not really elder dragon does quite a bit of damage even to tanks.

The really weird tuing is it sometimes randomly start regening for no reason even when wan't inturrupted.

Sozan52 votes

That's because Elder Dragon regenerates all the time.

You probably notice it whenever people have their abilities on cooldowns and dish out less damage.

Jasiwel2 votes

I'm not sure if the bug has been addressed, but I've lost a Ranked game to a reset bug where its HP regens like 50x faster even after it's supposed to reset. So basically, we were fighting Elder Dragon, its regen bugs to where it begins recovering through the fed JG Malzahar's 5 minions and my own's (Maokai) damage. We pull back to reset it, but as soon as we start fighting it again the bug persisted. Then the enemy team came ten seconds later, murdered our jungler, took Elder Dragon without any issues, halting all momentum and probably losing us the game (had been a tough one, but we had every dragon that game).

angery pout2 votes

The reset on Elder specifically is super weird. There was an LCS game a few weeks ago (can't remember which team) that was pretty much decided on an Elder reset that both teams had very little control over. The game was decided on the dragon resetting and both junglers failing their smite executes. One team (the one in the pit) was able to finish the jungler off before the rest of their team could engage and the game was over from there.

The game wasn't really that close but it was the nail in the coffin. Pro players should generally have foresight to know that contesting = probably going to reset because so many people are juggling the aggro, but it was pretty silly to watch.

I really wish I could remember which game this was. I've checked C9 vs TSM from week 6 and CLG vs C9 from week 7. If anyone knows or I find it on a VOD I'll update the post.

As a side note, Elder's natural hp regen that other people have mentioned is supposed to make it easily contestable. I don't have a problem with that. It's just the fact that it reset so easily when people were still trying to kill the dragon just because it kept aggroing on different people. I'm aware that all jungle camps aggro on the person closest to them and that changing targets too many times will reset it, but it was absurd to watch considering there were 3 champions in melee range of the drake.

Darkslayer851 votes

It has 50 natural hp regen.

Twerk a Fish1 votes

Thought regen was intentional, to make it harder to fight...

Blakiepug1 votes

I don't like when you're all fighting Elder Dragon in his pit and all of a sudden he decides to just sit down again so he can get up and knock you all back against the walls for seemingly no reason. Maybe that's intended but I kind of doubt it as it feels like a bug everytime I've had it happen in game.

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