Too many ways to ignore armor.

The thigh guy·Nov 5, 2018·6 votes·1,729 views

Title says it all. When you buy armor you accept that it is going to be reduced by 24% by default because of black cleaver.

Oh, you have 700 armor and now it’s doing something? Well now they spent 2400 and bought lord dominiks. You’re worthless again.

Okay okay. So you just don’t buy armor and instead stack health? Boooooork. Now you’re just healing them more.

Okay. So the enemy didn’t buy any armor shred and you have 700 armor? Too bad they took conquerer and ignore a decent chunk anyways.

Okay so none of the above? Then they have inbuilt armor ignoring mechanics or true damage built into their kit so you physically can’t build against them.

Come on riot, I know a decent amount of people hated the tank meta but this is overkill here.

It’s like a kid made fun of your haircut so you made fun of their dead mom. Chill.

10 Comments

MrFawknSunshineNov 5, 20181 votes

i know right. i mean shit why dont armor effect magic damage?

that alone is like 50% of the damage in the game

Buff Riven PlzNov 5, 20181 votes

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JeaneGreeneNov 5, 20181 votes

item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 item 3036 item 3071 item 3033 (+conqueror and any other goodies ya want)

Buff Riven PlzNov 5, 20181 votes

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TheSingularityNov 5, 20183 votes

OP above But long story short: a full build zed can shred a full build, anti AD nautilus down to 70 armor. Then proceed to deal over 4K dmg. The rules for the spells=W R then spam everything incl autos until the ult damage procs. On average I hit 4500 damage (and that's with a bunch of spells before full cleaver is applied).

Now the argument isn't "well he ulted a tank so that's a win". It's to demonstrate that a zed can completely nullify my entire build. Tanks, historically have countered burst, aka assassins and mages because they outright survive the burst then beat the champ, who has built no resistances via sustain damage.

Tanks have then lost over 800 HP through item nerfs, 55 armor and 10% cdr from item nerfs.

udyroverlordNov 5, 20182 votes

have you heard of yasuo. with 2 items and conqueror he does 25% true damage with 100% crit also he just ults u bc he deflected all ur shit with w and now he is also ignoreing a base of 50% armor. or lets talk about yi the man that has a build that can actually do 800 true damage a hit. tanks are useless with these type of champions and items

TheSingularityNov 5, 20181 votes

Note: this is a direct cut and paste from an older post in which someone wanted zed buffs: This is arguing with the OP, by displaying that almost all of a tanks armor can be nulified.

I did a test a while ago to display how much damage zed could deal within a set time frame.

Did it again but decided to record the outcome this time.

As Zed and at level 18 I have 512 AD, 54 lethality and a 59% armor shred with the following build:

As at left 18, after 10 minutes (so I get rune boosts as well) building to counter Zed, with I have 4659 base HP. With active and W I have 6522 HP 1v1 and 9318 HP if surrounded in a team fight (3+people) for the engagement duration. And then 337 armor.

Now I could have gotten more armor, but I was trying to be realistic (randuins/thorn are sub optimal in this situation. Iceborn offers less effective health than any of these items)

So for a little math 407-54=283 Then 283/100=2.83 2.83 X 59= 167 Therefore 283-167=116 armor at the end of armor reduction. So the dummy will have a little less armor but that will be considered. So instead zed will have item 3812 item 3133 item 1036 to give us the 40% CDR and 512 AD.

There is one rule for this engagement. I can only attack the dummy until my ult damage goes off. Until then I can AA and spam spells all I like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaHo_U8PWKY&feature=youtu.be

I didn't do it perfectly, was able to fit in a third E in some cases making the result about 4700. But despite that, 4451 burst damage is enough to kill 2-3 squishies with ease. And that's without zed passive since the dummy never drops below 50% HP and without zed building item 3153 to counter my health stack. And in reality zed has access to item 3139 to escape CC and can always keep autoing after his ult goes off.