im just laughing at how every game it seems my bot lane is always underskilled

Goodest Gamer·May 2, 2016·6 votes·3,243 views

the last game was a 2-20 bot lane. the game before that was a 2-19 bot. how fun is it to know every game is decided by another role and not your own misplay?

befor ei could hit 6 my mid had walked down for 2 free kills because they kept pushing up even when i told them i was recalling and not going to be able to help.

it wasnt too long before everyone got the idea and started feeding off the fucking boosted idiots who would ratheer flash into 4 people than die to 1. if my bot ever does go even, im sending 100 dollars to riot.

69 Comments

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20163 votes

Honestly, you need to see someone. You create negative situations for yourself, either by harassing others, or causing them to harass you, and then you play the victim card. It's really not a healthy mindset.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

tell me where i created the victim card. tell me where i harassed someone. you guys on these forums are wanna be psychiatrists. the victim card is when i say riot has it out for me. but when its 2 games in a row with the worst bot lanes this goddamn competitive game has to offer, its called having doubts on whether skill actually matters

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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tell me where i created the victim card. tell me where i harassed someone. you guys on these forums are wanna be psychiatrists. the victim card is when i say riot has it out for me. but when its 2 games in a row with the worst bot lanes this goddamn competitive game has to offer, its called having doubts on whether skill actually matters

You played the victim card by saying you keep losing because of bot lane. Eventually, you'll learn to solo carry though.

A Simple DesireMay 2, 20162 votes

It's because bot has 2 people and not 1. Get behind and without help you may as well just put a sign up saying "fuck me in the ass as hard as you can"

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

too bad everyone fucked them because they had no idea how to play their role. too bad bto determined the entire outcome of the game because they decided to pick a role they would both go 0-10 at

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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too bad everyone fucked them because they had no idea how to play their role. too bad bto determined the entire outcome of the game because they decided to pick a role they would both go 0-10 at

Everybody has bad games though. This is a PvP game. Eventually, you will run into players who rock your world and make you feel like you've never learned how to play this game. There will always be someone better than you. Imagine going against Faker and feeding him and then having everyone say you're garbage and don't know how to play your role. That's not right. You do know how to play your role, just not against better opponents, and that's where learning and improving comes in.

I once started a game as 0/8/1 top lane Irelia versus a Darius. I'm a beast on Irelia and I rarely lose lane when I play her top lane. However, that Darius kept getting really lucky early game, surviving with under 50hp. I played it safe after two deaths, but then he started tower diving me with jungler help, and I couldn't do anything because my duo partner decided to help the randoms instead of the person he relied on. None of that mattered though, because I finished 24/9/18 and won.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

that excuse is beyond petty. so you're telling me the 9 games ive lost because of my bot lane and other trolling lanes in th epast week are because they were ALL having bad days. so when i intent feed im going to blame it on a bad day.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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that excuse is beyond petty. so you're telling me the 9 games ive lost because of my bot lane and other trolling lanes in th epast week are because they were ALL having bad days. so when i intent feed im going to blame it on a bad day.

Yes. I am telling you they were all having bad days. That's luck of the draw. I've had days where I didn't have a single good player on my team. I've had days where I absolutely crushed everybody on the enemy team and I was playing at an LCS level, but my problem is inconsistency. I also have days where I play like I don't know what the hell League of Legends is or why that tower is attacking me.

If they were all different players, then it's entirely possible they were all having a bad day. But it seems like you run into this problem more often than not. Maybe you're the problem. I don't mean that as an insult, but rather as a gateway to a solution, as failure is only one step closer to success.

Read up on the law of attraction. You create the situations you end up in, and all those bad players were attracted to you because of universal energy. Sounds crazy and stupid, but that's because you can't put in a mystical concept in words. Wake up, look in the mirror, change yourself at your core (for the better preferably), and watch your situation change. It's worked for everyone I know, everyone I was taught by, and even for myself.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

im playing a video game, not researching how the world works. this game has the worst matchmaking and competitive game modes in the history of competitive gamings. the roll of the dice is 10x more effective than any other game modes. cod has it better when theres a chance you got only 1 moron on your team that you have to carry rather than 3.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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im playing a video game, not researching how the world works. this game has the worst matchmaking and competitive game modes in the history of competitive gamings. the roll of the dice is 10x more effective than any other game modes. cod has it better when theres a chance you got only 1 moron on your team that you have to carry rather than 3.

Yeah, but this video game exists within this world. The universe doesn't care that it's only a video game, it still exists in our universal reality. You should research how our world works. It'll help your world get a lot better.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

my world is perfect as it is. this game however, is far from perfect. there is no logic in these matchmaking games. there are no skillful counters to feeders and trolls.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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my world is perfect as it is. this game however, is far from perfect. there is no logic in these matchmaking games. there are no skillful counters to feeders and trolls.

If your world was perfect, it would translate and carry over to League, but by the way you're conducting yourself in this thread, I highly doubt you're a positive person. I wouldn't say you're negative, as I'm judging you based off one thread, but I can easily say you're at best neutral. A synonym for neutral is nothing. That means you are nothing. You do nothing and bring nothing to this world, so this world brings nothing to you, and nothing can get very negative, very quickly.

You have to be the change you wish to see. Maybe the world is telling you to play bot. Ever heard the saying, "If you want something done right, you have it to do it yourself?" Same thing here. Instead of bitching about all of your bot lanes being bad, how about you show them how it's done? Pick either role, learn it, and never have to worry about a bot lane. But then you'll probably just blame another lane, or am I wrong?

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

show them how its done? i can play EVERY role and not feed. i can play every role and go even or go ahead. if my world is perfect, in your perspective i should be able to 1v5 50-0 players because "i need to show my team how its done"

its time to get with reality and not some fantasy world.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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show them how its done? i can play EVERY role and not feed. i can play every role and go even or go ahead. if my world is perfect, in your perspective i should be able to 1v5 50-0 players because "i need to show my team how its done"

its time to get with reality and not some fantasy world.

No player can do that. You're the one living in a fantasy world. All this self-doubt and self-flaming is starting to piss me off. You need to suck it up and get over it.

You can easily use your teammates as pawns. League is a live action, simplified version of chess. If you see your bot feeding, and the enemy team rotating to five man gank to further tilt your bot, then go pressure another lane. There's always a way to create an opportunity to win, you just don't want to see that or take responsibility.

I can keep playing the nice guy, but you're so thick-headed, I'm pretty sure nothing I say, or anyone else says, for that matter, will get you to wake up. I suggest you stick to single player games, that way you can't blame the AI for not protecting you against the enemy that killed you when the difficulty was set to easy.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

so tell me mr everything can be won. why are you in gold 5? wheres the challenger? why did it take u 400 games to get to gold? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? is it because you did not play well or is it because you werent in cloud 9 then?

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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so tell me mr everything can be won. why are you in gold 5? wheres the challenger? why did it take u 400 games to get to gold? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? is it because you did not play well or is it because you werent in cloud 9 then?

You've resorted to personal insults, huh? It's because I produce music as a full time job. I engineer sound, I make instrumental tracks, I record, I write song lyrics, and I also do mixing and mastering services.

I could easily be in Challenger because I've always been a fast learner and excelled above everyone else in anything I've ever done. Academics, cooking, video games, sports in school, etc. You name it, I can learn it and beat you at in no time. Music was the first thing that challenged me and sent me obstacles, and I've grown as a person because of it, so I'm pursuing that path.

I do not have the drive, nor the dedication, to climb in league, so I play a game occasionally. What you failed to mention, though, are my averages, like the 70% win rate Lux last season with 14/3/21 average kda, and that's including support, or my 90% win rate Lulu with 20+ games, 100% win rate Galio with 15+ games. I, as a player, can perform just as well as any of the greats, and carry anybody to a win. I've played customs with friends where I ended up being on a team where I was the only gold, and I had all bronze teammates, versus a team of golds and plats. Did my teammates play poorly? Yes. Did we lose because of it? No.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

did i personally insult you? i said these words and these words exactly "if everything is winnable and easy, why are you still gold" nothing i say makes sense to you because you feel like im making a jab at you with every sentence. this game is hard because people make it hard. if its easy for you, you shouldnt be gold.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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did i personally insult you? i said these words and these words exactly "if everything is winnable and easy, why are you still gold" nothing i say makes sense to you because you feel like im making a jab at you with every sentence. this game is hard because people make it hard. if its easy for you, you shouldnt be gold.

You insulted me by saying my rank made me ineligible to give advice on how to play League and be a good teammate. You didn't flat out say that, but that's exactly what you insinuated, and anybody with half a brain will see past your manipulative semantics and draw the same conclusion.

The only people that should ever make the game hard for you are yourself and the opposing team. Very rarely have I lost a game because of my team. Even when I'm the only one on my team playing well, I can easily admit that it was probably a mistake on my part that lost the game, because I can see the initial cause that set in motion a series of events that led to an inevitable effect. It's not about the one team fight at Baron that threw the game, it's about not having the vision or map pressure to have it under control.

I mean, in theory, you can win a match without anybody on your team getting a single kill. All you have to do is keep vision up everywhere, and out-rotate amazingly well. That's probably why LCS matches have less kills/deaths per game than the average Bronze game.

Alex SloanMay 2, 20162 votes

But this is the same guy that bashes lower ELO players posts when they claim their team brings them down. Lol.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

tell me one post where i do that. tell me one post where i intentionally bash with no actual explanation as to why. prove it.

Alex SloanMay 2, 20161 votes

You know damn well you down vote every post you see from bronze/silver/gold players complaining they can't climb because of their teammates.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

Every time I play adc, I feel like it's a 1v2 lane and like my support is nothing but a free ward. I get pressured too easily, and my support doesn't apply his/her own pressure and just stands around doing nothing. Then we both end up feeding because I'm behind in farm and items and map pressure. But, when I play support, I actually do things to protect my adc and allow them to farm and harass safely, and I win bot every time. Moral of the story: never adc unless you can queue with a support you can rely on.

A quick edit: An ADC cannot win bot with a bad support, but a support can win bot with a bad ADC.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

dont fucking win the lane. just fucking farm it . its goddamn level 30 common knowledge. but these idiots at gold + still have no idea what that means. im 0-3 lemme keep 2v2ing.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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dont fucking win the lane. just fucking farm it . its goddamn level 30 common knowledge. but these idiots at gold + still have no idea what that means. im 0-3 lemme keep 2v2ing.

More like, I'm 0-3 and the only way I can come back is by farming, but the enemy team also knows that, so they will create situations where it's impossible for me to farm without getting in a position to get killed, so my only option is to roam and pressure elsewhere, but then their bot gets farm and towers bot, which equates to map pressure. Whatever you think you can do to fix your situation, a good enemy team has already thought of it and is a step ahead of you.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

MY bot was dying to them under their turret 5 times in a row. they refused to ward and when i came to help them they would run from me and nothing productive would happen. the zyra support missed every goddamn root in the game. the jhin kept walking into their bot lane and suiciding and the diana jungle and zed mid would come for free gold and kills because the games matchmaking is illogical.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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MY bot was dying to them under their turret 5 times in a row. they refused to ward and when i came to help them they would run from me and nothing productive would happen. the zyra support missed every goddamn root in the game. the jhin kept walking into their bot lane and suiciding and the diana jungle and zed mid would come for free gold and kills because the games matchmaking is illogical.

The game's matchmaking is a computer using a random number generator. It can't hand pick you players that play consistently well. Get over yourself, or stop playing league.

Listen, I understand you hate not being in control, but there will always be things you can't control, and you have to deal with it and make the most out of your situation. Bitching about the past won't change the future or how you deal with it. Complaining about a situation won't get you out of it. Stop making excuses and start making solutions.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

i havent been control for the past 15 games. every game theres someone letting his team down and making it 5x harder because hes retarded

Ben SharpioMay 2, 20161 votes

How many posts like these are you going to make?

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20162 votes

as long as i can get 1 fair game, im keeping these coming. dont like it? leave

xShadowBladeMay 2, 20161 votes

Very few people below mid-diamond understand that support makes or breaks the lane a lot of the time. As a support, if youre good you will set up kills, keep wards up, ward deep when its safe, keep wards in the right places and make teamfights go well. A lot of these things you can just learn by having somebody explain it to you, its experience and constantly getting better.

You cant tell somebody where the "right" places for a ward are, it depends on your team's position, the power balance between the teams (which is the stronger team) and the champions youre facing. Its things that need to be actively picked up by the support player who has to process a lot of this information on the go, your eyes should be glue to the map AND the lane SIMULTANIOUSLY.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

i can tell you right now, the overexxageration on support players is getting irritating. i play support when i want to sleep . i play ali or leona. thats even more active than janna and i STILL fall asleep. you ward 2 bushes and wait for someone to fuck up or a gank to go in. if they engage you help your adc get out or engage back. its not hard. late game comes you ward a few bushes and suicide engage to make sure their adc is locked down or if your adc needs peel you stay on his ass making sure no one touches him.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20163 votes

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i can tell you right now, the overexxageration on support players is getting irritating. i play support when i want to sleep . i play ali or leona. thats even more active than janna and i STILL fall asleep. you ward 2 bushes and wait for someone to fuck up or a gank to go in. if they engage you help your adc get out or engage back. its not hard. late game comes you ward a few bushes and suicide engage to make sure their adc is locked down or if your adc needs peel you stay on his ass making sure no one touches him.

Every single role is like that lmao. The entire premise of the game is capitalizing on enemy mistakes.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

except support is no where near as hard as playing a solo lane? having to play for yourself and a jungler who will always camp me for no reason wahtsoever even when im at my turret.

enemy mistakes dont need to happen to get strong. last hitting as a ranged adc is not hard. youw ait for it to get low and TA DA FREE GOLD NICEEEEEEEEEEEE

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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except support is no where near as hard as playing a solo lane? having to play for yourself and a jungler who will always camp me for no reason wahtsoever even when im at my turret.

enemy mistakes dont need to happen to get strong. last hitting as a ranged adc is not hard. youw ait for it to get low and TA DA FREE GOLD NICEEEEEEEEEEEE

Except a good enemy opponent will contest every piece of cs, and harass you for trying to get that gold. Is a cannon minion worth feeding a well organized bot lane?

Also, solo lanes are really easy lol. You have nobody to rely on, and it allows your personal skill level to shine like no other lane.

I also doubt you get camped in every single game you play, and that you're the only lane that's getting ganked. You're just exaggerating your situations and experiences so that other players will feel bad for you. No. Stop it. Fix yourself. We can't fix you for you.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

nobody to rely on? you think thats a good thing? have you played top recently? every single game is vs a tank with no skill shots or anything and an enemy jungler whos playing either gragas ekko or graves. theere is no skill level to show. its how patient you are . im not asking you to fix me. i have nothing to fix in myself but my patience levels for incompetent teammates who cant match the enemy teams. when i can win lane in a 2v1 and my jungler has yet to touch a lane without suiciding, i tend to get very sad :(((((

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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nobody to rely on? you think thats a good thing? have you played top recently? every single game is vs a tank with no skill shots or anything and an enemy jungler whos playing either gragas ekko or graves. theere is no skill level to show. its how patient you are . im not asking you to fix me. i have nothing to fix in myself but my patience levels for incompetent teammates who cant match the enemy teams. when i can win lane in a 2v1 and my jungler has yet to touch a lane without suiciding, i tend to get very sad :(((((

Yeah, I've played recently, and I've struggled this season more than I did when I was first learning the game. This meta is crazy hard to thrive in, so I sympathize with all those players that get flamed by you because they don't meet your standards of perfection and flawless play. Yes, I admit Season 6 is really stale and boring and most games are seemingly one-sided now, but that's nothing I can't adapt to, and nothing you can't adapt to, either. You just have to choose to. That's where you're failing. It seems to me like you're losing your games before you even get past the loading screen. You log on with a losing mindset, already prepared to have bad teammates and to blame them, and you keep wondering why nothing is changing.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

you want to know the funniest part about all of this? all of my toxicity towards my teammates goes to this corrupt site. if you intent feed ill add you after the game to ask what went wrong in your life but thats about it. when people make excuses saying im 0-10 because mid didnt call a mia(which i did) ill tell them they let us down and they need to stop making excuses for it at the end.

my main and this acc have gotten 0 punishments in the past 9 months because ive chosen to keep my mouth shut due to this games bullshit.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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you want to know the funniest part about all of this? all of my toxicity towards my teammates goes to this corrupt site. if you intent feed ill add you after the game to ask what went wrong in your life but thats about it. when people make excuses saying im 0-10 because mid didnt call a mia(which i did) ill tell them they let us down and they need to stop making excuses for it at the end.

So, you'll harass other people after a game, as well as tell others to take responsibility when you don't? Seems legit.

My dad is a case manager for people with mental illnesses like Schizophrenia, Personality Disorder, and Anger Management who have nothing going for them in life. Usually, they're depressed and suicidal, and only want to cause harm to others or to themselves. No matter how hard they insult him or the people around him, or the people that he loves, he always remains calm and collected, understands their situation, calms them down, and gets a positive reaction out of them. He's even helped a few of them change their mindset.

Toxic doesn't stop toxic, and it never will. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. You have to be the change you want to see in the world.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20162 votes

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you want to know the funniest part about all of this? all of my toxicity towards my teammates goes to this corrupt site. if you intent feed ill add you after the game to ask what went wrong in your life but thats about it. when people make excuses saying im 0-10 because mid didnt call a mia(which i did) ill tell them they let us down and they need to stop making excuses for it at the end.

my main and this acc have gotten 0 punishments in the past 9 months because ive chosen to keep my mouth shut due to this games bullshit.

I mean, a burglar can break into several homes and commit as many crimes as he wants until he's caught by the law. Just because his record is clean doesn't mean he's innocent, it just means he hasn't been found guilty yet.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

its because i dont type at all. you need to stop comparing two separate things.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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its because i dont type at all. you need to stop comparing two separate things.

If you don't type, maybe you should. Putting a smile on someone's face and making your teammates happy and enthusiastic will win more games than skill level ever will. It seems you consistently lack teamwork in your games. It's probably because you have no team. It's probably because you didn't give the people in your lobby a reason to be one.

Spicy RiceMay 2, 20162 votes

I don't know what you've been smoking, but it's infinitely harder to keep someone else alive AND winning, than it is to keep just yourself alive and winning

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

you dont need to win. everytime we fall behind in lane when i support, i ask him to just play it safe and wait for them to fuck up. this works ALL the time. he plays patiently and we end up either winning or losing late because of other factors. you dont need to win lane to win the game. but you damn sure dontneed to feed to knwo ur losing.

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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you dont need to win. everytime we fall behind in lane when i support, i ask him to just play it safe and wait for them to fuck up. this works ALL the time. he plays patiently and we end up either winning or losing late because of other factors. you dont need to win lane to win the game. but you damn sure dontneed to feed to knwo ur losing.

Oh, so, when you're nice to your teammates, and give constructive feedback without using negative language, you get positive results, ending up in more wins? I've got to write that one down in my notes.

Goodest GamerMay 2, 20161 votes

so when i dont insult my teammates, im toxic. but when i give positive comments, im a POSITIVE PLAYER

Space Boy Lynk May 2, 20161 votes

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so when i dont insult my teammates, im toxic. but when i give positive comments, im a POSITIVE PLAYER

That first part doesn't make any sense. I don't know what method of thinking you used there, and I honestly don't know how to respond to that or how to help you there. Although, I do agree that being positive and giving positive comments makes you a positive player, and the more you do it, the more it becomes a habit, and the more positive you become as a person. Fake it 'til you make it, man.

xShadowBladeMay 2, 20161 votes

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i can tell you right now, the overexxageration on support players is getting irritating. i play support when i want to sleep . i play ali or leona. thats even more active than janna and i STILL fall asleep. you ward 2 bushes and wait for someone to fuck up or a gank to go in. if they engage you help your adc get out or engage back. its not hard. late game comes you ward a few bushes and suicide engage to make sure their adc is locked down or if your adc needs peel you stay on his ass making sure no one touches him.

If you only ward a few bushes I doubt youre warding the right ones ALL the time, late game if you suicide engage all the time, again youre doing it wrong. And lastly, janna is what valkrin calls "a hands-off" support which is why she puts you to sleep, shes a very niche pick and while some people have a lot of success with her its not usually because they are good, its mostly because they accidentally fuck someone else over by pressing Q randomly.

Captain ArcherMay 2, 20161 votes

Generally when I lose lane as a support, it is the adc thinking he can 1v2 them while I'm walking back to lane. but I'm assuming that this I because of my lower elo or a vayne flashing away from me in the middle of a fight instead of condemning one of them. Ive also noticed that my adcs usually just stand there in one spot auto attacking. I played one game with a cait who literally never put one trap down. never used her q except to clear waves, and only used her e when the enemies got close never even following up on the crit from it. I set up so many kills she could have gotten if she knew that her q does damage to champions.

DeathyMay 2, 20162 votes

lets not forget the ADC that literally are AA rather then last hitting when you zoning out the other team bot lane, and it like WHY ARE YOU PUSHING IT TO THEM , let them freakin strave in exp and gold you dimwit adc!