I stated that I think janna probably shouldn't have such a ridiculous shield on top of everything else and apparently I was in the wrong because Jannas SOOOOOO weak right now.
Mafia LeBlanc2 votesIt's a minor pittance to oldschool janna mains who had to listen to THIS:
Unlucky471 votesOh god that's awful. It sounds like they pulled some women off the sidewalk that was waiting for a cab, handed her a sheet of paper, and told her to say what was on it. Then they gave her like 5 bucks and said she could leave.
Mysticman892 votesAs far as op.gg indicates, sona and blitzcrank both have higher win rates in plat+.
I think blitzcrank needs more hate because screw blitz, but I mean theres not much one can actually do about him without fundamentally changing his kit to the point he is no longer blitzcrank. Similar applies to Janna tbh.
Meep Man1 votesBlitzcrank is so easily countered though. Pick a strong Tank for your team and always stand in front of Carries. Have good warding and he becomes relatively useless outside of punishing Assassins.
Mysticman891 votesSure, you can play around blitz, but the problem is you basically have to all collectively play around him existing due to the potential hooks, and very few other champs require changes to warding patterns and changing what 'safe' positioning means.
Standing in between carries and blitz is all well and good, but theres also the rest of the enemy team to worry about. Plus, you're not always as a 5 man unit. Maybe you need to send someone to deal with a splitpusher, and that someone is probably going to be a top lane tank. Maybe it's early game and everyones still in their lane, and your bot lane is a bunch of mages since thats in flavour. Maybe it's mid game and blitz is huge from either picking off bot lane, or roaming mid after bot lane got zoned under their turret, and now he doesn't even mind hooking a tank. Maybe they have a jungler that also requires special warding habits (e.g. rek'sai, zac, etc.)
He's very frustrating.
Big Lincoln1 votesbecause boards only complains about champions if they FEEL overpowered
janna doesn't FEEL overpowered though
Unlucky471 votesYes because a champion isn't overpowered unless it is one of two things:
Like wukong for instance. Does he one shot you? Yes. Do you main him? Yes. Therefore he isn't overpowered.
Redesignated1 votesBecause it's a dead horse, Janna's been consistently nerfed over and over, has an incredibly basic play pattern that you can work around if you have any coordination with your team at all (hence why she's so good for ladder-climbing from low, where coordination flat-out does not exist most of the time), and now you're complaining about the people that argued with you, which just makes it look like you can't handle people disagreeing with you more than anything.
Unlucky471 votesNo im simply stating that I don't see where the problem is. This isn't the first nor last time that I have made a post about a strong champion. But if it's a popularly played champion, than I'm instantly recieved with people talking about how weak or easy to play around they are. Like when I tried to talk about ahri. Half of the people leaving comments had "Ahri" somewhere in their summoner name.
The only way you can make a post about a powerful champion that will recieve any recognition is if its someone that is hated more than people play them. Like Yasuo, Vayne, or Caitlyn. But no don't you dare mention Ahri or lee sin or janna or anyone that's actually hidden op because more people play those champions.
Redesignated1 votesPlatinum might not be exactly low, but it's still far from breaking the barrier into truly consistent high-skill play. Janna has been a long-standing meme as an easy support to one-trick and see success with, not because she's overpowered, but because she thrives in chaotic, low-coordination fights.
And again it just looks like you have a chip on your shoulder. :/
Unlucky471 votesIm just pissed off because this happens every time for the reason I've already stated. From my understanding, the game is balanced around plat play level anyways so I don't see the problem with my suggestions. And it's not just plat, but everything above plat as well.
I went ahead and scrolled through the top challenger players. Almost every support main in the top 20 have janna as one of their five most played champion. All of them retain above 60% winrates on her. This would imply that she's also good in really high level play would it not?
Redesignated1 votesI feel like at that point the implication is more that they know when to pick her where she'll have an easy time succeeding — not just in terms of the exact team compositions, but who they're playing with and who they're playing against. In Challenger, you have the luxury(?) of basically playing with same people a bunch of times, so you know how they tend to play, what their weak points and strengths are, what they're likely or unlikely to pick (see: Annie Bot almost always wants Annie), etc. tl;dr Challenger is kinda screwy.
And, for what it's worth, I can understand your frustration, but I still think it sounds more like it's coming from personal difficulties handling her, and less from Janna herself being overpowered. And that's perfectly fine if it's a personal challenge as well, because her kit pushes a lot of points that can be difficult to adjust to, especially from the actual Janna one-tricks that are pushing her skill ceiling as hard as they can — predicting her Q direction, knowing when to disengage a fight after drawing out things like her ultimate vs. when to dive back in after she uses it, or baiting out her E with one thing so you can use something stronger once it's on cooldown.
Unlucky471 votesAlso the statistics don't agree with you because if it was just low elo, she wouldn't have such good stats in Plat+ which I base my information off of.