Talon needs a QOL like his Ulti.

EcchiOtakuTM··3 votes·320 views

I noticed this since PBE but I didn't mention it because I thought it would be minor.

However if you use a gapclose skill you will go behind and avoid the second hit of W. Also players tend to go closer constantly to avoid 2nd hit of talon's W even using flash.

Now what I want to say is when talon uses W if during that delay he AAs a unit when the delay ends they should converge on thatplaye instead of talon.

Now I know it's counterplay to dodge W that's fine. However GETTING CLOSER to an ASSASSIN shouldn't be counterplay for something like this especially flashing closer as a squishy ranged? No, not at all.

Sure you can say ekko is similar but he has 2 in combat repositioning tools to make it land.

Overall it wouldn't remove the counterplay because the delay is still there and you'll still be able to avoid it except for by a normal gapcloser (ex xin charge, jax leap). I'm even fine with losing the Q's AA reset, but this needs fixing.

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ChaddyFantome1 votes

then talon would be able to W-> ulti ->auto to 1 shot like before, removing the window in his burst

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

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then talon would be able to W-> ulti ->auto to 1 shot like before, removing the window in his burst

It wouldn't remove the window the delay is still there...... Did you read.....

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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It wouldn't remove the window the delay is still there...... Did you read.....

Yes it would because the blades would go right to the person u auto like u said.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Q range is nowhere near W range, the counterplay is still there......

The delay is still there too.

Not to mention the first part of W doesn't slow you can still run, and since they'd have to AA you then they wouldn't have the AA to even proc the passive and you can definitely prevent a non-Q followup AA.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Q range is nowhere near W range, the counterplay is still there......

The delay is still there too.

Not to mention the first part of W doesn't slow you can still run, and since they'd have to AA you then they wouldn't have the AA to even proc the passive and you can definitely prevent a non-Q followup AA.

No, what i am saying is you would just Q to your target and then W-ulti-auto and then all the blades would go into them and they'd insta die.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

So basically a normal case use........

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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So basically a normal case use........

Actually that is not the normal case use, if that is your normal case combo you are doing it wrong, lol.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Look idk why you're trying to troll but this change wouldn't alter his counterplay, just fixes counterplay abuse cases, a varus shouldn't be flashining into melee range to avoid W without real punishment nor should a normal gap close from xin jax and few others ALWAYS avoid 2nd part of W. I don't know if you're just salty about not outplaying talon or something but it IS an issue that needs fixing.

The delay is still there, he won't proc the mark easily if he uses Q in those cases, and his mobility in direct combat is still abusable.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Look idk why you're trying to trol

Stopped takign you seriously.

You aren't looking for discussion you are looking for validation. No right minded individual worth the time of day resorts to calling someone a troll just for disagreeing with them Grow up.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Because there's no sense in what you're saying, counterplay will still be there, this is addressing a fatal flaw. You couldn't be a talon player if you can't see that.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

the only QoL change i want for talon is to make him not auto attack when he ulti's it keeps canceling accidentally.

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