Why can Braum not jump to wards

Lucky··68 votes·5,580 views

"Stand behind Braum!"

"Except wards man, wards can go fuck themselves"

???

49 Comments

Nameless Voice30 votes

A better question is why can Lee Sin jump to wards? Using a spell called Safeguard that doesn't offer them any protection.

BlackSunNocturne3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nameless Voice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EarriqlO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-19T14:37:08.231+0000)

A better question is why can Lee Sin jump to wards? Using a spell called Safeguard that doesn't offer them any protection.

Because it was a bug that Riot thought was cool, so they kept it.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

It wasn't a bug, ward jumping was around far before Lee via Kat and Jax.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

That was also a bug. None of them were originally intended to be able to ward jump. They can because wards are re-textured minions. Braum's jump exempts wards. They fixed this on all the other retextured minions though (Anivia wall for example).

Durzaka2 votes

Ward jumping in general was a bug on both Kat and Jax as well.

Heckin Support23 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nameless Voice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EarriqlO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-19T14:37:08.231+0000)

A better question is why can Lee Sin jump to wards? Using a spell called Safeguard that doesn't offer them any protection.

Because of the amazing LC$ q wardhop ulti plays man.

DrCyanide7 votes

But my Braum Q ward-hop-auto into ultimate then follow-up stun Big Plays!

Cis7v011 votes

because if they tried to remove it, all the lee sin mains would cried an ocean so salty it would make the dead sea look alive. that and the amount of rage/screaming they produced would bring the world's temperature up 5 degrees.

TheDevice1 votes

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because if they tried to remove it, all the lee sin mains would cried an ocean so salty it would make the dead sea look alive. that and the amount of rage/screaming they produced would bring the world's temperature up 5 degrees.

They did try to and lee sin mains and kat mains DID cry an ocean so salty. Riot caved like any bad parent would so now we have CLEAR unfair/unbalanced issues staring at everyone in the face like Talon, a cost-based assassin, who can't hop to wards yet Katarina, a cost-free assassin, still can.

JimmyNtheKudos1 votes

IMO this would have probably balanced Lee Sin a long ass time ago without most of the other "nerfs" he got. Though I guess you couldn't make half the plays without ward jump.

Beerstein22 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stephanie Stone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EarriqlO,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-19T14:28:27.757+0000)

"Stand behind Braum!"

"Except wards man, wards can go fuck themselves"

???

The problem is clearly that wards don't stand, they sit.

BeerOfRoot48439 votes

They don't have feet, man. They're trying their best.

B1naryB0t2 votes

Shhhhh, he's just a ward racist.

Enosetc8 votes

i don't think riot likes ward hopping anymore

Hawkefire8 votes

Ward jumping as a mechanic should be removed from the game, not expanded upon.

kile1476 votes

Nobody should be able to... but if LeeSin and Jax can he probably should too.

MisterPhistur2 votes

Katarina wardhops Leblanc has something better than a wardhop

kile1473 votes

Katarina is also bullshit Leblanc isn't a targeted ability, she may be too mobile but at least she does it using mechanics that make sense (a normal dash) instead of using ward targeting

EvilMerodach5 votes

Only if he can shield dmg intended for the ward to take and lose 1/3rd of his max hp other than the ward. ...and only if it's the poro wards.

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KING OF MASKS5 votes

The reasoning they gave during Braum's Q&A was that it would be awkward for an ability themed around protecting allies to be used on wards.

Which of course is complete fucking garbage since the name of Lee Sin's wardhopping ability is Safeguard and has a nigh-identical description.

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

The key difference in the description: "Lee Sin can activate Safeguard on himself to receive the shield". Braum can only jump to allies. Lee Sin actually benefits himself when casting safegaurd on a ward.

CasterGilgamesh3 votes

thats bullshit braum can also cast his jump to protect himself

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

Save himself? sure. but he cant cast his jump without a target to get the extra bonus MR and Armor, while Lee Sin can cast his safeguard to shield himself without a target.

Edit - actually, he can. nevermind. But it doesnt say so in the description

Ironclad Dragon4 votes

Why should Lee?

Tentacle Love3 votes

I would make an exception for poro wards, but I don't like ward hopping, it's a stupid mechanic that rewards players for using wards improperly.

Cenobite Azaziel3 votes

It's funny how Braum can't ward hop because he would go into the black line and knock all the enemy team up in one straight line, turning maplhite into something useless and meanwhile LeeSin can do the SAME thing and to add more salt to injury, he kicks the enemy ADC or APC right to the other team, while having the damage ratio of assassins.

FooDang2 votes

Because that would make him OP.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Ward hopping is an inherently bad mechanic.

Earl Eulrich2 votes

Because not everyone needs unconditional mobility just for the sake of it...Braum is fine as he is (currently he´s making huge waves in the LPL actually, even getting to firstpick-status).

IAMS4T4N2 votes

i was thinking about this in a game with a braum if kat, lee, and jax can do it, why cant braum?????

Cleril2 votes

Braum isn't blind and would obviously look silly jumping to wards.

Lee Sin on the other hand is blind and therefore can't tell the difference between a ward and an ally.

Beerstein1 votes

More like why can't Elise target wards, she's a spider.

Abyssphere1 votes

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More like why can't Elise target wards, she's a spider.

She can target enemy wards as long as she has vision of them!

SpiritGear1 votes

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More like why can't Elise target wards, she's a spider.

she can target enemy wards which is nice I actually escaped once because of a ward I was clearing out and then I got double ganked

Chaotic Reks1 votes

MUST GIVE WARD ARMOR AND MR!!!

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

Braum gives wards one million bonus armor and magic resist. This results in 99% damage reduction. Wards still have 3 health.

Cindikle1 votes

They don't want him being the next Lee Sin in the jist of it.

Wheatloaf1 votes

Braum is intended to be a purely defensive champion, with incredibly unreliable engage. He's also intended to work with his allies. Allowing him to ward hop would kinda break both of those. Don't need a Braum going all Insec on your team.

General Murica1 votes

Bcz fk that OP Mustard

For Carthage1 votes

It's making less and less sense now that there's poro wards.

You're saying that Braum doesn't protect poros? You serious? You mean the thing that his goddamn introduction was tied around?

Lugg1 votes

IMHO, no champion should be able to jump to wards.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Because he isn't a fighter or an assassin.

Uiru1 votes

Probably because Riot has realized that ward jumping is bullshit.

Now if they could just do something about the current ward jumpers without their "mains" (abusers?) burying Riot HQ in salt.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes
YOLO420SWAGSCOPE1 votes

because wards don't do damage, so braum doesnt jump to them, but lee sin is blind so he jumps to anything he wants

Lord Of Legends1 votes

baron should be a champ then just saying

Andy8881011 votes

i think riot said that it will make Braum op in bot lane or make him op in top lane they didn't want him to be a solo laner or a op support so they took it out. but Katarina Jax LeeSin are fine even those it op for them, while Braum Elise can't item 3070

ilt1 votes

what are these "wards" you speak off? Never used one

MarkedOfKane1 votes

As a Braum player, I have thought about that. I feel that no champion should be able to jump onto wards.

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