What's the real difference between diamond, master, and challenger?

Hallbuster··1 votes·11,962 views

I've been on youtube trying to find differences between these 3 Elo's but I honestly can't find any. All seem to have near perfect cs, good trading mechanics, good wave control, good roaming potential and good map awareness.

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o0O Madoka O0o2 votes

It's comparative to your personal skills and how much details you look for. I can personally see the difference between Low diamond, high diamond, and master, but not so much about mastery vs challenger. Sometimes it's just a few mistakes in the whole game that separates them.

But the MMR difference between lower master to #1 challenger is bigger than me to diamond 1 (I was plat 4). So there's definitely a lot of details that I was not paying attention to.

Åeolus1 votes

Diamonds don't play perfectly. Masters and challengers are much more refined at everything than Diamonds as well.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

champion pools, diamonds are typically one tricks.

people rotate in and out of masters/challenger. its rather unfortunate when 4 members of TSM get placed on the same team.

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Diamonds are really good, Masters and Challengers are really fucking good.

wishbone251 votes

one mistake and GG on different levels

Geshultz1 votes

Main difference is the amount of mistakes that are unpunished/made. In low diamond minor mistakes aren't punished frequently. Well in high diamond it is punished. For example difference between master and high diamond is how well they abuse their team strengths and enemy champions weaknesses. Major difference between masters and challenger is that in challenger they work together as a team in solo queue all the time. Well in masters/diamond they don't work as a team. Obviously the other differences skills being more refined obviously.

Omega 1011 votes

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Omega 1011 votes

For example --- #162 on the NA ladder was a member of TL with a (MMR OR ELO) of 2927 - at the same time Stixxay, who is #201 had a difference of only (350 MMR) - That is the same difference from Platinum V 0LP to Silver I 90 LP. Keep in mind, these players are only 39 spots away from each other. Both are amazing players with excellent mechanics, yet they're an entire division apart. That is what makes the Challenger Tier so damn insane. You have look at each person individually. The amount of time having to be put in to stay challenger is also insane or you'll be surpassed out of you allocated spot in no time at all. Where in Diamond you could just chill for a few days like any other Elo.

There are 200 players in Challenger, while there can be an infinite number of players in Master (currently 600+ on EUW). Once you reach Diamond 1 100lp, you have to win a bo5 to get into Master. You start there with 0LP, and earn points for each win, just like anywhere else. That is where i see the big difference in skill set. On different servers. To be in EUW and play in Master is just not nearly as impressive while being compared to 1 of the limited 200 who are truly Challenger.

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