The new AP Shiv is HORRIBLE

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What it does is promote mobile AP champions, such as LeBlanc, Akali, Ahri, and Katarina, and spammy AP champions, such as Ziggs, Ryze, and Cass.

Are you seeing the problem yet? Once again, traditional mages with low mobility and/or long CDs are left out in the cold, while these examples of difficult to balance champions are rewarded.

That the item gives MS is good, but it should be paired with CDR instead of bonus damage that rewards mobility and spam. MS + CDR is what traditional mages need, and what the above champions do not need.

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ValyrianBlade1 votes

I actually think Ahri would love MS and CDR, but I agree with your point otherwise.

(My new build for Ahri is to rush Morellonomicon and Lucidity boots for 40% CDR with the 5% mastery, then Rylai's for the slow to kite all day long. I figure I need my Q up as often as possible to kite the best).

Talamare2 votes

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I actually think Ahri would love MS and CDR, but I agree with your point otherwise.

(My new build for Ahri is to rush Morellonomicon and Lucidity boots for 40% CDR with the 5% mastery, then Rylai's for the slow to kite all day long. I figure I need my Q up as often as possible to kite the best).

Why not get 15% from Runes and 5% from Mastery to get Morello and Sorc Shoes? What else are you using Quints for? A pitiful amount of AP?

oh and about the Statikk Rod, yea this item is completely stupid Extremely weak, very few champions will want it, takes up nearly the same design space as a Lich Bane, improves wave clear on the class that needs it the least, the scaling on it is the same as 1 auto from nashors, promotes unneeded gameplay...

Seriously Riot, just bad all around

ValyrianBlade1 votes

15% from runes would be what, all 3 quints and 9 glyphs?

Depending on the matchup (AP vs AD or vs AP) I take AP+Scaling MR glyphs or just flat MR glyphs. I have AP quints vs AD because typically they're melee and can be bullied hard early to stop them from being even at 6 and facerolling you, and MS quints versus AP because I play a dodge skillshots sort of game and like to roam.

Which I'm not going to try and pretend that it's a well thought-out optimality. I had 2 full rune pages (the basic AD and AP pages) prior to the season-commencing sale, had saved up 20 some thousand IP, and bought 4 more rune pages and the runes to fill them out. Flat CDR runes are the most expensive class in the game and I'd have had to give up a lot more runes that I needed more in order to afford to buy them. 9 flat CDR glyphs at 820 IP each, even with the 30% discount, was way too steep for me to afford when I only own about 22 champions.

Talamare1 votes

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15% from runes would be what, all 3 quints and 9 glyphs?

Depending on the matchup (AP vs AD or vs AP) I take AP+Scaling MR glyphs or just flat MR glyphs. I have AP quints vs AD because typically they're melee and can be bullied hard early to stop them from being even at 6 and facerolling you, and MS quints versus AP because I play a dodge skillshots sort of game and like to roam.

Which I'm not going to try and pretend that it's a well thought-out optimality. I had 2 full rune pages (the basic AD and AP pages) prior to the season-commencing sale, had saved up 20 some thousand IP, and bought 4 more rune pages and the runes to fill them out. Flat CDR runes are the most expensive class in the game and I'd have had to give up a lot more runes that I needed more in order to afford to buy them. 9 flat CDR glyphs at 820 IP each, even with the 30% discount, was way too steep for me to afford when I only own about 22 champions.

Use scaling, its much cheaper and provides more CDR

ValyrianBlade1 votes

My problem with scaling is that I'm not going to get 40% cdr until 18 then. I could supplement with blue buffs but you don't always know you'll get them, they don't last forever, and sometimes it's just nice to give it to an ally.

I feel like ahri hits her power spike at 40% cdr + rylais.

Not to mention I'm giving up a little magic pen (which I already have some of in runes and masteries) and ahri has true damage as about 1/4 of her damage output. A late void staff if they're stacking mr (or as a 4th item if they are forced to build mr early) should be enough. If your team is ap heavy ask the tankier top/jungle to build an abyssal scepter (my last ranked game with ahri I actually pointed out we were 4ap plus lucien adc and off the start said we have a lot of ap so someone should build an abyssal scepter, amumu built it mid game).

RuGu1 votes

The item should build up charges while not moving instead of while moving. lol.

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