If you want to make something out of Zoe instead of nerfing her so she is unplayable

Beatrice falls··3 votes·1,070 views

Just entirely remove her from the game until you actually fix her. It's a kit issue, and a matter of numbers too. You can't keep touching her numbers while leaving her kit in this state. She's not a stat-checking champion like Tryndamere MasterYi. It's her kit itself that is toxic. I can't believe she actually got released in this state, this is a damn joke to have a champion's kit resumed around "hit 2 skillshots and you one shot your opponent gg" while even more tools that aren't even related to her class.

Did you even ask yourself "what class does she belong to ?" I keep calling her an artillery mage since her main source of damage is a long ranged nuke (same as old Nidalee which was an artillery mage and not an assassin), but she has damage added randomly everywhere in her kit that missing her main source of damage doesn't matter since she can deal damage with other spells (and mentionning that her Q has a really low cooldown). If you catch a ranged mage, you're supposed to be allowed to destroy him, since his main source of power is being ranged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vkdeqnEkAQ

Just look at this first clip to prove my point, I wouldn't have minded if she was actually extremely fed, but she has as much gold as the Jhin and managed to 100-0 him by missing her entire combo, because of the random damage she gets from everywhere.

Please Riot, when you see threads on Reddit asking about the removal of a champion, and the most upvoted answers are all about Zoe (and most answers are also about Zoe), it should ring bells

12 Comments

theChibiTina2 votes

Qtpie also missed his abilities, she had a redemption proc, and it's not like she 100-0 him that quickly. It was a drawn out battle. The kind you rarely see anymore. Zoe was pretty close to dead herself before the redemption proc went off. If qtpie had gotten that final fourth shot free crit off in time, Zoe would have died as well. The redemption went off and he died just before he could fire it though.

Beatrice falls2 votes

"Missed his abilities ?" His Q is point and click and he's a marksman -_-

theChibiTina2 votes

Okay. He's 2 levels behind. He missed his W. His Q doesn't do to much damage and only increases in damage if it kills one of the targets if hits. Marksmen don't do that much early/mid game and most of Jhin's damage comes from his fourth shot.

Beatrice falls2 votes

She's a mage, she missed her main source of damage, she's not supposed to keep dealing damage

TitanAnteus1 votes

This is the fault of runes, and ignite, not zoe.

theChibiTina1 votes

By that logic, Aurelian Sol is broken as well and he has a higher win rate. Oh, he missed everything, but he's still got his stars.

Jamaree1 votes

I want to point out the only elos she has a positive win rate in is in Diamond+ where most players don't resign.

Beatrice falls1 votes

I don't care about winrate or not winrate, she could have a 1% playrate with a 2% winrate, it wouldn't change the fact that her kit itself is toxic, same as Yasuo (I wonder what's the common denominator, oh wait...)

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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I want to point out the only elos she has a positive win rate in is in Diamond+ where most players don't resign.

Even in diamond its a 49% winrate. Sol meanwhile still sitting at 55% rofl

DearPear1 votes

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Just look at this first clip to prove my point, I wouldn't have minded if she was actually extremely fed, but she has as much gold as the Jhin and managed to 100-0 him by missing her entire combo, because of the random damage she gets from everywhere.

Not this again ):

Goodwill1 votes

I think her kit is fine. It is just her kit has to much power. it is unique for a champion to pick up item actives and stuff but I do not think it should be the actual item active. The actives should have reduced affects. Her sleepy cancer bubble should not be able to lay on the ground and lurk around like a pile of sewage. Summoner spells should also have reduced effects as well. Like flash should have a shorter range, heal less heal, cleanse still cleanse but non of the added benefits, ignite less dmg, exhaust but doesnt slow, and such.

JoeAnarchy1 votes

my only issue with her is the summoner spell thing... she shouldnt get free summoners and random fully complete items from minions...

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