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Babyrage Yasuo OP QQ Thread to Farm Upvotes

Covert Ops Gnar··9 votes·1,129 views

He's spiraling out of control with that 50/51% win rate. Yas hasn't been changed since 2014 and all you millennials crying he's suddenly OP when NOTHING has changed.

95% of these forums are players Unranked/Bronze/Silver/Gold telling game developers of a billion-dollar global competitive game that they should change X because YOU find it OP. I haven't seen a single** respectable Plat+** player complain about Yasuo being OP on these forums because he's a dogshit champ. There are ENDLESS numbers of ways to shit on a Yasuo. I haven't played against a Yasuo or have seen him banned for the past 30 games in low Diamond.

Riot makes their balance decisions around Plat-Diamond and sometimes based on Pro-Play.

So you tell me, if he has such an overloaded bullshit kit, why is he not Pick or Ban in LCS? Woudn't LCS players abuse the fuck out of an overloaded kit?

Reply with a non-babyrage response and try to give a logical and coherent reason why he's OP.

I'll debunk some of the babyrage right off the bat

  1. **Windwall OP! ** 20sec CD lasts 5 seconds, only defensive ability, can walk around it or simply walk away

  2. TOO MANY DASHES! 6 sec CD target-only dash, can only dash multiple times if there are multiple targets to dash to, IE a minion wave

  3. SHIELD PASSIVE OP! ALL HE HAS TO DO IS WALK AND GETS FREE SHIELD! Walking is the "cd" on his passive shield which is about 15 seconds, and the shield itself allows him to lane sustain without being bullied out of lane by range, late game it is used to avoid huge burst when he teleports into the middle of the entire enemy team, more "OP" passives would include a "free" stun as Annie's passive

  4. Armor Penetration OP!!! Melee ADCs have some form of ignoring armor, Yi and Fiora have True damage, Tryndamere is fairly compensated

  5. He has hard CC! Skillshot that can be dodged and predicted, gives HUGE indicator that says when it is available and has a very long cast time

TL;DR Yasuo hasn't been changed since patch 4.21, the only thing that has changed since then are the items he builds and the changes to the items he built, yet all the bronzes/silvers/golds suddenly are making babyrage threads about how he's OP

47 Comments

Vistha Kai5 votes

Just a clarification: Windwall lasts 4 seconds and has a 26 second cooldown until level 14 or getting CDR.

And yes, I agree. I've seen hundreds of Yasuo players and played a fair share of matches as Yasuo myself since his release. In the past 2 seasons I only picked him occasionally, only to quickly realize how easy it is to fuck up or die to a gank and how hard to recover.

Meanwhile when I'm playing against him, he has so many openings that even really experienced players give me no problems winning. "Good that he is playing Yasuo and not a different champion, because I'd absolutely get shit on otherwise" is what's usually going on in my mind in times like this. At this point it's so one-sided, that for Yasuo to win a lane against me, would require constant jungler presence or myself fucking up so badly I should uninstall on the spot.

And I'm not bragging about, because I can't think of a single game in Season 5 and 6, when Yasuo legimately won a lane against me. On the other hand there was only a handful of games where enemy Yasuo was of any importance afterwards.

Genuwhine364 votes

They have a term for yasuo in eastern countries that means "will lose if on team"

Covert Ops Gnar2 votes

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They have a term for yasuo in eastern countries that means "will lose if on team"

Pretty much what it is, I can 1v1 him as ranged champs in lane easily. He's dogshit. I contemplate dodging when I do get a Yasuo on my team.

GULAG 4 U4 votes

He's not really garbage nor dogshit.

Also he was changed in 5.8 too....

Speaking of respectable plat+ players, to what I know, excluding full time Xiaoweixiao clients and people that go full retard, (Apexch is an example)

You have

Malicious Metal: Didn't exactly say he's OP, just said he's cancer.

Dr poro: Made a contentless hate thread some time ago which got over 90 upvotes. In the comments he just said "fuck you I'm diamond" and pretty much that's it. Dr poro doesn't tend to only spam his diamond rank argument outside of Yasuo threads too.

Shadow (EUW, there's an accent on IIDK forgot which letter) Calls Yasuos mains fa ggots, and asked to nerf his shield by adding a CD when it already has one... Also compares his shield to Syndra's knockback and other nonsense I'm not going to bother.

Dominik Destine The evenlyn main who spams about Yasuo being faceroll and says he has build in sustain, amazing base stats that are worse than @#$*ing aatrox's base stats, says he has massive AOE cc and windwall makes him immune to ranged characters.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Which was a significant nerf to his early game Flow shield.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

I didn't know, I was just pointing it out. Oh yeah, got called a yasuo main on the other thread, the guy bet 10 20$ riot cards, the Xiaoweixiao client then proceeded to try to enforce on me how he's my 2nd most played champion when I have 10k more points on Yi than Yasuo....

Vistha Kai1 votes

I'm constantly being called Yasuo main myself, despite the fact in this season I played him only 15 times, while with my two most played champions I have currently exactly 150 games.

Rivuo1 votes

{quoted}

He's not really garbage nor dogshit.

Also he was changed in 5.8 too....

OH HEY THOUGHT YOU WERENT A YAS MAIN WHY YOU REPLYING ON EVERY YAS POST?

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I am a Yasuo main for pointing something wrong in thhis thread? What is wrong?

Rivuo1 votes

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I am a Yasuo main for pointing something wrong in thhis thread? What is wrong?

i have seen you post on every single yasuo thread possible.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

How does that change anything?

Get off your bullshit arguments because I roasted your sorry ass in another post.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Hey, I'm a Yasuo main who is responding in every Yasuo thread too.

A Yasuo main with 15 Yasuo games out of 340 ranked games I played this season.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I wouldn't exactly call half of those people "respectable".

Especially Dominik Destine and Dr Poro. Well, DD is flat-out a troll for me.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

I said non full retard. DD makes good points when he's not talking about his ban or Yasuo. Poro does make good points sometimes.

Slythion3 votes

Yas hasn't been changed since 2014 and all you millennials crying he's suddenly OP when NOTHING has changed.

Not only was he changed in 5.8, but itemization and popular picks have changed as well

Windwall OP! 20sec CD lasts 5 seconds, only defensive ability, can walk around it or simply walk away

It may have a high cd, but let's not pretend like a decent Yasuo can't hang on to that for the right situation. This ability single-handedly lets him zone ranged champions from cs'ing under their own tower, all ranged spells/attacks in the game (including ultimates), and allows him to animation-cancel his Tempest to provide less of a reaction time to stop his engage. It may have a long cd, but that doesn't stop any decent Yasuo from enjoying some of the many forms of utility that it provides

TOO MANY DASHES! 6 sec CD target-only dash, can only dash multiple times if there are multiple targets to dash to, IE a minion wave

So...7 dashes in under (0.1 x 7) 0.7 seconds (obviously it's not that high because the animation time, but who else has access to that amount of dashes?)

Armor Penetration OP!!! Melee ADCs have some form of ignoring armor, Yi and Fiora have True damage, Tryndamere is fairly compensated

Ya, but he has more free armour pen than anyone in the game (that I know of anyways)

He has hard CC! Skillshot that can be dodged and predicted, gives HUGE indicator that says when it is available and has a very long cast time

He can have ranged knockup with a decently-wide hitbox every 8 seconds (his q has a cdr passive) that can be used to zone quite efficiently. Sure, it's not the most broken thing in the game, but you also have to remember that simply e'ing his opponent results in a free knockup->ult. You have to considering how he has:

  • 50% free crit (most in game)
  • 50% free armour pen (most in game)
  • An anti-poke shield to help his laning phase
  • Something pretty much the same as an auto-reset
  • Incredible (yet reliant) short-range, duel-focused mobility (max potential: most in game)
  • A knockup every 8 seconds
  • A free instant-shield + extended knockup on ult
  • An anti-ranged, animation-cancelling wall that protects him from nearly every attack from a given direction

You simply can't deny that he has a decent amount more free stats than anyone in the game.

NOW I'M NOT ARGUING THAT HE IS BROKEN

I simply wanted to point out that he isn't as useless as you claim to be and he has a decently stacked kit. His problem in lcs is that there are a lot better teamwork-orientated champions for LCS players to use and Yasuo can definitely be shut down by a coordinated team. And if you didn't know, I'm fairly certain that Yasuo was actually picked in Worlds last year into a Darius matchup (smh).

Now that tank yasuo has been taken care of, I think Yasuo is in a pretty comfortable position overall. Sure, there are things that I find annoying about his kit, same as others viewed Zed as more "annoying" than "OP". But let's not try to pass him off

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

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Not only was he changed in 5.8, but itemization and popular picks have changed as well 20sec CD lasts 5 seconds, only defensive ability, can walk around it or simply walk away

It may have a high cd, but let's not pretend like a decent Yasuo can't hang on to that for the right situation. This ability single-handedly lets him zone ranged champions from cs'ing under their own tower, all ranged spells/attacks in the game (including ultimates), and allows him to animation-cancel his Tempest to provide less of a reaction time to stop his engage. It may have a long cd, but that doesn't stop any decent Yasuo from enjoying some of the many forms of utility that it provides 6 sec CD target-only dash, can only dash multiple times if there are multiple targets to dash to, IE a minion wave

So...7 dashes in under (0.1 x 7) 0.7 seconds (obviously it's not that high because the animation time, but who else has access to that amount of dashes?) Melee ADCs have some form of ignoring armor, Yi and Fiora have True damage, Tryndamere is fairly compensated

Ya, but he has more free armour pen than anyone in the game (that I know of anyways) Skillshot that can be dodged and predicted, gives HUGE indicator that says when it is available and has a very long cast time

He can have ranged knockup with a decently-wide hitbox every 8 seconds (his q has a cdr passive) that can be used to zone quite efficiently. Sure, it's not the most broken thing in the game, but you also have to remember that simply e'ing his opponent results in a free knockup->ult. You have to considering how he has:

  • 50% free crit (most in game)
  • 50% free armour pen (most in game)
  • An anti-poke shield to help his laning phase
  • Something pretty much the same as an auto-reset
  • Incredible (yet reliant) short-range, duel-focused mobility (max potential: most in game)
  • A knockup every 8 seconds
  • A free instant-shield + extended knockup on ult
  • An anti-ranged, animation-cancelling wall that protects him from nearly every attack from a given direction

You simply can't deny that he has a decent amount more free stats than anyone in the game.

NOW I'M NOT ARGUING THAT HE IS BROKEN

I simply wanted to point out that he isn't as useless as you claim to be and he has a decently stacked kit. His problem in lcs is that there are a lot better teamwork-orientated champions for LCS players to use and Yasuo can definitely be shut down by a coordinated team. And if you didn't know, I'm fairly certain that Yasuo was actually picked in Worlds last year into a Darius matchup (smh).

Now that tank yasuo has been taken care of, I think Yasuo is in a pretty comfortable position overall. Sure, there are things that I find annoying about his kit, same as others viewed Zed as more "annoying" than "OP". But let's not try to pass him off

I used to play him all the time, but relative to other picks he isnt the best choice by far in the current meta. He has strong utilities but he takes an immense amount of skill and practice to play at a 50-55% win rate. I'm very good at Yasuo, but I can't think of a single person that doesn't shit on him right now except the people he hard counters.

Vistha Kai2 votes

His q has a cdr passive

Is that... an argument? His Q doesn't scale with CDR, but with AS. It's not like he's getting more out of it, than other champions do from CDR.

50% free crit (most in game)

Which is his only combat steroid.

50% free armour pen (most in game)

There's his ult armor pen, but it's not on-demand like every other melee carry's. For example Fiora and Yi get free true damage, which shreds squishies and tanks alike.

An anti-poke shield to help his laning phase

Which blocks one basic attack.

Something pretty much the same as an auto-reset

Which isn't actually a basic attack reset, just his only basic damaging ability that actually scales with anything that he is buying.

Incredible (yet reliant) short-range, duel-focused mobility (max potential: most in game)

Which isn't actually duel-focused, because it can only be used once and it depends mostly if his enemy allows him to fight inside a minion wave.

A knockup every 8 seconds

Can't argue with that, but it's also the most telegraphed knock-up in the game.

A free instant-shield + extended knockup on ult

A shield that doesn't last until his ult ends, unless he manages to get a perfect ult.

An anti-ranged, animation-cancelling wall that protects him from nearly every attack from a given direction

As long as he and his enemies remain stationary.

You simply can't deny that he has a decent amount more free stats than anyone in the game.

I can, because he doesn't actually get that many "free" stats. Having an ability isn't "a free stat", mind you. He gets up to 50% bonus crit chance - for the price of reduced damage, which automatically means it isn't "free" - and ignoring 50% bonus armor after ulting. That's it.

He has no true damage, nor gets bonus AD, nor movement speed buffs.

If you wanted to look at free stats, look at Tryndamere, who gets up to 35% crit chance and up to 60 AD for existing.

I simply wanted to point out that he isn't as useless as you claim to be and he has a decently stacked kit.

Having "a decently stacked kit" means little, if that kit is heavily telegraphed, requires enormous experience and when most of the champions in the game can win against him, even those that should struggle against him.

And I'm not saying that from Yasuo's perspective, but from the perspective of somebody who was almost exclusively playing against him for the past 2 Seasons.

specter4242 votes

He is very strong. His "weaknesses" are from the people playing him not the champion.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

No, it's not. If it was true, then every pro player should be abusing him because they play the game so effectively right? It's not the case.

And Yasuo's winrate goes down from bronze to diamond, and in diamond people play the game and the champion better, so why isn't the winrate going up?

Vistha Kai4 votes

Wrong. A player needs to be significantly experienced for Yasuo to be just average. Conversely all of his strength as perceived by the community comes from people playing against him.

For example just today I had an argument with a guy who claimed Yasuo is a win-win, because only way to teamfight against him is to either run away and not fight at all or dump all your abilities into an already placed Windwall. That's what I've been told.

Or that other guy who claimed Yasuo is OP, because a Gold player got fed off low Silvers and Bronzes in a normal game.

That's the idiocy you hear constantly from people who claim Yasuo is OP and requires nerfs.

The Red Goat1 votes

Yeah, speaking as one of those lower end players, my problem with Yasuo has more to do with how easy it is for him to snowball wins with practically any kills. The worst thing about League to me is when certain champs get so fed that they end up impossible to kill without an entire team ie snowballer champs. Of which, players may not have to deal with in Diamond or Plat as much, but to everyone else its kind of a big deal. And Riot just gets to say "oh well, sucks to be you?" That's really not fair to the people who are the majority of the player base.

I'll admit there's very little that can be done to compensate or fix the problem that these champions create, but refusing to do any significant changes is no solution either. The saddest thing is probably the players need changing more than the game itself.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Nearly every champion is like that when a skill discrepancy is in effect.

For example since I got level 30 in the first half of 2013, I don't think, I've played 50 normal games on SR. If I'd go there now, as a guy who've been as high as Platinum 1, I could most likely pick any champion and get fed, because I'd be facing mostly inexperienced players.

That's not something that can be actually changed without ranked and normal MMR working only in one way. For example for a person playing ranked, normal MMR would be taken directly from ranked MMR unless the latter would be lower. And this isn't exactly something Riot would be willing to do.

Rivuo2 votes

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I haven't seen a single** respectable Plat+** player complain about Yasuo being OP on these forums

I was in my diamond promos 6 days ago so ill give you my opinion on yasuo.

  1. Windwall voids too much. It blocks ults like sejuanis to full autos from adcs. If you fight in the jungle and yasuo puts a windwall, the adc will never land a hit.

Here is a perfect example of yasuo using windwall and completely negating me as an adc.

My team is dying and because yasuo put a windwall im forced to either get in melee range and die, or walk around the whole block but by that time my team is dead.

  1. Spammable E through champs/minions/camps once per x seconds.

This is a huge problem because minion waves are a thing you know. There arent many champions who can use your own minion wave against you. That makes no sense in League. My minions that are defending the tower, are the reason an enemy is able to get close to me or disengage? I

dont understand how that was a remotely smart thing to throw on yasuo.

  1. Passive shield can absorb Caitlyn ult

I'll leave that self explained.

  1. His Q has no cooldown that means he literally has unlimited harass with tornados. Every 3-4 seconds you have to watch for a tornado being thrown at you or the E-E on minions and then E-Q on you and you're insta-knocked up because you werent having sex with your tower.

The reason yasuo is frustrating, is because theres more stuff he can do to you, than what you can do to him.

I dont give a shit if you're bronze or LCS ranking, Saying Yasuo isnt frustrating to fight is bullshit. I dont care if you won lane against him, his windwall is the reason your adc isnt doing any damage in team fights.

I dont care if hes 0-15 he threw one good tornado ( same with blitz, fuck blitz ) after missing every single tornado in the game, but that one nado on the adc secured the teamfight win.

I have 860k mastery points on Caitlyn. When Caitlyn was super meta, i agreed she was the most frustrating adc to fight hands down because she really was and kinda is annoying to this day but not as bad anymore. You yasuo mains should do the same.

My brother mains Illaoi, and he admits how frustrating and dumb she is when he gets Pentas by pressing R.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Did you hire xiaoweixiao or xj9?

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

{quoted}

I haven't seen a single** respectable Plat+** player complain about Yasuo being OP on these forums

I was in my diamond promos 6 days ago so ill give you my opinion on yasuo.

  1. Windwall voids too much. It blocks ults like sejuanis to full autos from adcs. If you fight in the jungle and yasuo puts a windwall, the adc will never land a hit.

Here is a perfect example of yasuo using windwall and completely negating me as an adc.

My team is dying and because yasuo put a windwall im forced to either get in melee range and die, or walk around the whole block but by that time my team is dead.

  1. Spammable E through champs/minions/camps once per x seconds.

This is a huge problem because minion waves are a thing you know. There arent many champions who can use your own minion wave against you. That makes no sense in League. My minions that are defending the tower, are the reason an enemy is able to get close to me or disengage? I

dont understand how that was a remotely smart thing to throw on yasuo.

  1. Passive shield can absorb Caitlyn ult

I'll leave that self explained.

  1. His Q has no cooldown that means he literally has unlimited harass with tornados. Every 3-4 seconds you have to watch for a tornado being thrown at you or the E-E on minions and then E-Q on you and you're insta-knocked up because you werent having sex with your tower.

The reason yasuo is frustrating, is because theres more stuff he can do to you, than what you can do to him.

I dont give a shit if you're bronze or LCS ranking, Saying Yasuo isnt frustrating to fight is bullshit. I dont care if you won lane against him, his windwall is the reason your adc isnt doing any damage in team fights.

I dont care if hes 0-15 he threw one good tornado ( same with blitz, fuck blitz ) after missing every single tornado in the game, but that one nado on the adc secured the teamfight win.

I have 860k mastery points on Caitlyn. When Caitlyn was super meta, i agreed she was the most frustrating adc to fight hands down because she really was and kinda is annoying to this day but not as bad anymore. You yasuo mains should do the same.

My brother mains Illaoi, and he admits how frustrating and dumb she is when he gets Pentas by pressing R.

So an ADC hates vs'ing Yasuo. What a surprise. I bet you also hate vs'ing Zed, Eve, Ekko, Kha'Zix, Rengar, Katarina, Master Yi, etc.

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

{quoted}

I haven't seen a single** respectable Plat+** player complain about Yasuo being OP on these forums

I was in my diamond promos 6 days ago so ill give you my opinion on yasuo.

  1. Windwall voids too much. It blocks ults like sejuanis to full autos from adcs. If you fight in the jungle and yasuo puts a windwall, the adc will never land a hit.

Here is a perfect example of yasuo using windwall and completely negating me as an adc.

My team is dying and because yasuo put a windwall im forced to either get in melee range and die, or walk around the whole block but by that time my team is dead.

  1. Spammable E through champs/minions/camps once per x seconds.

This is a huge problem because minion waves are a thing you know. There arent many champions who can use your own minion wave against you. That makes no sense in League. My minions that are defending the tower, are the reason an enemy is able to get close to me or disengage? I

dont understand how that was a remotely smart thing to throw on yasuo.

  1. Passive shield can absorb Caitlyn ult

I'll leave that self explained.

  1. His Q has no cooldown that means he literally has unlimited harass with tornados. Every 3-4 seconds you have to watch for a tornado being thrown at you or the E-E on minions and then E-Q on you and you're insta-knocked up because you werent having sex with your tower.

The reason yasuo is frustrating, is because theres more stuff he can do to you, than what you can do to him.

I dont give a shit if you're bronze or LCS ranking, Saying Yasuo isnt frustrating to fight is bullshit. I dont care if you won lane against him, his windwall is the reason your adc isnt doing any damage in team fights.

I dont care if hes 0-15 he threw one good tornado ( same with blitz, fuck blitz ) after missing every single tornado in the game, but that one nado on the adc secured the teamfight win.

I have 860k mastery points on Caitlyn. When Caitlyn was super meta, i agreed she was the most frustrating adc to fight hands down because she really was and kinda is annoying to this day but not as bad anymore. You yasuo mains should do the same.

My brother mains Illaoi, and he admits how frustrating and dumb she is when he gets Pentas by pressing R.

Stun him in a fight and he's instantly dead.

Rivuo1 votes

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Stun him in a fight and he's instantly dead.

Stun Ahri Akali Annie Ashe AurelionSol Azir {{chaBlitzcrank Brand Cassiopeia Caitlyn Corki Diana Draven Elise Evelynn Fiddlesticks Fizz Hecarim Kennen Katarina Kassadin Karma Jinx Janna Khazix Leblanc Lucian Lux

And they're dead. Literally applies to any champion.

I gave you paragraphs from a Plat player just as you asked, and you reply with ''oh becoz ur an adc main u hate yasuo lel''

Uhhh.. okay you're a silver 4 who has a 65% lose rate in ranked....

PermabannedGaren2 votes

{quoted}

Stun Ahri Akali Annie Ashe AurelionSol Azir {{chaBlitzcrank Brand Cassiopeia Caitlyn Corki Diana Draven Elise Evelynn Fiddlesticks Fizz Hecarim Kennen Katarina Kassadin Karma Jinx Janna Khazix Leblanc Lucian Lux

And they're dead. Literally applies to any champion.

I gave you paragraphs from a Plat player just as you asked, and you reply with ''oh becoz ur an adc main u hate yasuo lel''

Uhhh.. okay you're a silver 4 who has a 65% lose rate in ranked....

If you stun Dr. Mundo in a team fight he is likely to survive, depending on context (basically as long as he's not diving in 1v5). Both due to his insane tankiness and his free tenacity.

If you stun Olaf in a team fi- oh wait, you can't stun Olaf in a team fight if he has his ult.

Some champions are far more vulnerable to CC than other champions. The tank wants to soak enemy CC. The diver or melee carry does not.

Rivuo1 votes

{quoted}

If you stun Dr. Mundo in a team fight he is likely to survive, depending on context (basically as long as he's not diving in 1v5). Both due to his insane tankiness and his free tenacity.

If you stun Olaf in a team fi- oh wait, you can't stun Olaf in a team fight if he has his ult.

Some champions are far more vulnerable to CC than other champions. The tank wants to soak enemy CC. The diver or melee carry does not.

I agree. Tanks want to soak enemy CC.

But my point is saying

''Just stun him and hes dead'' is not the counterplay to a champion and should not be used to backup an argument because the counterplay to 99.9% of champs is to just ''stun him'' I gave OP paragraphs of why people are frustrated with yasuo just like he asked and his response is

''oh ur an adc main no wunder''

''just stun him''

Very thoughtful and a well constructed counter argument

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

{quoted}

Stun Ahri Akali Annie Ashe AurelionSol Azir {{chaBlitzcrank Brand Cassiopeia Caitlyn Corki Diana Draven Elise Evelynn Fiddlesticks Fizz Hecarim Kennen Katarina Kassadin Karma Jinx Janna Khazix Leblanc Lucian Lux

And they're dead. Literally applies to any champion.

I gave you paragraphs from a Plat player just as you asked, and you reply with ''oh becoz ur an adc main u hate yasuo lel''

Uhhh.. okay you're a silver 4 who has a 65% lose rate in ranked....

Im a d5 with 53% win rate in ranked

Rivuo1 votes

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Im a d5 with 53% win rate in ranked

Youre silver 4

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

{quoted}

Youre silver 4

Yes, this account is silver 3. Good job pointing it out.

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWO1w5Bc,comment-id=000700020000000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-28T20:40:05.809+0000)

Yes, this account is silver 3. Good job pointing it out.

soo... post your main account :x

PermabannedGaren2 votes

Yasuo is clearly not dog shit if his fairly high pick rate and win rate (the former matters more than the latter) in Masters and Challenger mean anything, but yeah, he's not a problem. He was briefly a problem due to abusing bruiser itemization and a bug, but now that he actually has to build a lot of damage to do damage he's fine.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Meanwhile xwx platinum clients are still crying like a bronzie over them. jeez.

Save1 votes

So bored of seeing the threads crying about him 24/7 lmao

your post is great 10/10

JuiceNJews1 votes

Who's complaining? Scrolling down this is the first post I even saw about Yasuo in the gameplay section, the nerfs had the desired effect, I don't know if he's perfectly balanced but he's definately alot closer now.

People were btching about Yi and had him nerfed even though he was never even close to a 50% winrate when it happened and hasn't seen remotely as much competitive play over the years as Yasuo despite being more than twise as old, people btched about Jax when he was barely scraping 50% and practically never a choice pick in competitive earlier this season, people b*tched about Volibear when he was sporting slighly lower winrates than Yasuo had at his apex this season and had him nerfed even though his presence in competitive has always been nonexistent for obvious reasons. But Yasuo should have been given a free pass and be left untouched when he was at 56%+ top and 53%+ mid?

Dafuq you smoking?

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Because people bitch about them it doesn't mean they're right.

Also he had so high winrates for ONE patch because of a bug.

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

{quoted}

Who's complaining? Scrolling down this is the first post I even saw about Yasuo in the gameplay section, the nerfs had the desired effect, I don't know if he's perfectly balanced but he's definately alot closer now.

People were btching about Yi and had him nerfed even though he was never even close to a 50% winrate when it happened and hasn't seen remotely as much competitive play over the years as Yasuo despite being more than twise as old, people btched about Jax when he was barely scraping 50% and practically never a choice pick in competitive earlier this season, people b*tched about Volibear when he was sporting slighly lower winrates than Yasuo had at his apex this season and had him nerfed even though his presence in competitive has always been nonexistent for obvious reasons. But Yasuo should have been given a free pass and be left untouched when he was at 56%+ top and 53%+ mid?

Dafuq you smoking?

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Again, Yasuo has not been changed. The spike in winrate is by an unnecessary Tri-Force change that gave him huge amounts of CDR and attack speed, the Phantom Dancer changes that make him take 12% reduced damage, Gage making it impossible to burst him and giving him good offensive stats+400HP, and Frozen Mallet allowing him to perm-slow everybody on top of the Tri-force movement speed.

MohawkBird1 votes

Honestly every point you said there can be easily countered.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Then do it.

MohawkBird1 votes
  1. Windwall is a problem for these reasons: it lasts too long for the power that it has, and, in conjuction with his other defensive/utility capabilities, takes away a lot of his weaknesses. He has no mana, so the whole "just bait his windwall, it's easy" argument will always make you lose in the end, specifically as a mana user. Then when you do manage to bait it his mobility and shield keep his untouched and relatively unpoked until the windwall is back up again.

It also doesn't help that any good Yasuo player saves the windwall for when they need it most, and oftentimes doesn't take the easy bait that everyone seems to think works.

  1. "He can only dash to targets!"

Yeah, but guess what most of this game has almost everywhere, yup, you guessed it, targets to dash to! Seriously, laning phase is a fucking dash fest for Yasuo no matter how you put it. There are always targets in team fights for him to dash to as well, more so if it's in a lane, and there are almost always targets in the jungle for him to dash to. This argument makes it sounds like Yasuo's E rarely ever gets used.

  1. I kinda mentioned it in the windwall section, it's not the shield alone thats toxic, but really the conjunction with all the other utility in his kit that's made to keep him safe at all times. Yeah, you can break it with an auto attack, but when you do he has his dash to dodge all your skillshots and his windwall to put up right afterwards until it's back up.

  2. This is practically the sole reason why this whole tank Yasuo build was so broken. It's why tank Fiora was so broken as well. We can't pretend like it's not a problem, especially when tank builds were abusing this free stat so well.

  3. Just dodge the skillshots has never really been that great of an argument against champions to begin with. But this ability also has a function that's virtually impossible to dodge when he dashes to you, and he also has more hard CC in his kit besides his tornade, that's point and click and able to proc off of teammates.

Meat Feast1 votes

Anivia hadn't been changed since S1, now all of a sudden she's OP and gets nerfed up the ars. Feeders gonna hate

DarkRitual1 votes

She got changed in the midseason update actually.

Covert Ops Gnar1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Meat Feast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWO1w5Bc,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-09-27T22:29:21.942+0000)

Anivia hadn't been changed since S1, now all of a sudden she's OP and gets nerfed up the ars. Feeders gonna hate

The changes in itemization have made her stupid broken. Riot trying to fix things that aren't broken.

Calabok1 votes

I agree. nerf Yasuo.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Looks at votes I don't think it worked.

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