Nukes you from halfway across the lane, almost zero lane interaction, godlike waveclear, and amazing all ins (and the ability to immediately return to safety after doing so). Such fun champs to play against...
Pika Fox3 votesZed is my most hated champ in the game. I cant click accurately enough to deal with him popping from shadow to shadow.
That being said, he is balanced as fuck, and the game is better for having him because people like that playstyle. To say otherwise is just being ignorant and just trying to make the game revolve around you.
Cloud2735 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EW6E5xbv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-28T23:33:15.579+0000)
Zed is my most hated champ in the game. I cant click accurately enough to deal with him popping from shadow to shadow.
That being said, he is balanced as fuck, and the game is better for having him because people like that playstyle. To say otherwise is just being ignorant and just trying to make the game revolve around you.
Saying Zed is balanced is just plain ignorant. He's received nothing but buffs (direct and indirect) over the past few years.
Pika Fox1 votesAaaand? Getting a buff =/= OP. Especially since most were compensation buffs for nerfs to itemization.
Foxstep1 votesAnd before that zed received nothing but nerfs. Furthermore the game changed to the worse for zed. Lethality is weaker than armor pen, many champs came out that countered zed (tk, ekko, kindred etc) stopwatch, zhonias cheaper, mages got better early games and more waveclear and his shadow cd got nerfed to 22s once.
dubahel2 votesBefore conqueror and tank nerfs LOL would be a better place if champs like Maokai and Sion didn't exist
almost zero lane interaction, godlike waveclear, outscales any bruiser and unkillable. Such fun champs to play against
This isn't particularly a well thought out thread
The Ecdysiast1 votesI agree, champions should not start with Z.
Just as well though, a champion should neither have all of their damage in one single, not-even-kill-damage-unless-you're-fed ability nor should an assassin have skill-less outs on the same ability as their ins.
Blinks should not be the norm. Poppy's W only becomes useful against the few supports who use dashes to engage or fighters building burst damage, because of that discrepancy where assassins have free range to have no such counter.
Paroe1 votes@thread In the case of zed, he needs actual cooldowns on his Q and his shadow clone jutsu needs to be an engage tool where his ultimate is his disengage tool.
In zoes case she needs some number balancing on her Q and E; She should not scale with distance traveled, and her sleep needs to not be spammable under any circumstance.
Kit-wise the champions are fun and interesting, its just their numbers that need changing. Makes it such a shame that riots balance team is completely inept and only balances for the flash, the pomp, and the E$ports dream.
Foxstep1 votesI don’t get the boards. Instead of saying I don’t like champion because of a/b the boards just straight up lie.
Since when does zed have great waveclear? If he uses his w for waveclear he’s free to be harassed or ganked. He also pushed now so your jungler can just fuck him up. His damage also takes a great hit and he loses a significant amount of energy.
Same basically goes for zoe. Her waveclear isn’t god like, anivias is, karthus is. Zoes engage is also not amazing cause you can tell where she pops up.
Nightshade Rose1 votesSo basicly all burst champs?
As an adc player i agree.
Call Me Nana1 votesi hate zed so much, but zoe is pretty easy to beat if you play her for a bit.
FirewaterDM1 votestbh I feel like yasuo is more annoying than both of these champs. Like they are silly but there's worse shit out there lol
You forgot yasuo.
