Tell me how to vs ranged toplaners

l Main Renekton·2/8/2016, 5:05:04 PM·4 votes·1,477 views

Because as Darius or Wukong, I can't face them. Can't do anything. Just get destroyed and have to sit back and accept the free zone.

Tell me what to do because I'm kind of sick of it, faced Ryze, Graves, Kennen and Teemo and really not feeling the whole ranged top thing right now

16 Comments

Phoenix Kotori 2/8/2016, 5:34:22 PM4 votes

Darius struggles vs ranged because his strength vs melee, tbh.

But Wukong should be much more capable of handling ranged top laners, with his clone and dash he can trade well with most of them especially if he can mindgame them into wasting an important spell on his clone, and post ult he should be able to threaten bursting them besides Graves (who's just OP). If you play afraid to trade or all-in them as Wukong you're gonna suffer cause he can't really win lane by being passive vs ranged.

SaltyKracka2/8/2016, 5:18:33 PM2 votes

Take teleport.

Accept that lane will absolutely suck for you.

Call for all the ganks you can get.

Make it up in midgame.

Marshbouy2/8/2016, 5:19:57 PM2 votes

See I never have issue. I build tank against them and play heavy safe. I've crushed Quinn's teemos, trist, ezreals, dunno how I just baited them into bad harass and then abused my tankiness

KyroRayne2/8/2016, 6:37:08 PM2 votes

Get into the fetal position and just cry under turret until they push minions to you.

Actually, just play safe and cs what you can without taking too much poke. Have your jungler gank often to allow you more time to cs by scaring the enemy from lane for a few seconds. Take advantage of their mistakes or ability uses that have a higher CD (Graves Dash, Teemo Movequick, Ryze passive, Kennen Lightning Dash). Then smack them around before heading back to safety. You want to be in a position to outtrade them.

God of Bagels2/8/2016, 5:22:31 PM1 votes

Use Chogath. Q+W+AA+R

Cardmant2/8/2016, 5:26:12 PM1 votes

All you need to do is farm under the turret... Not that hard

Rain NT2/8/2016, 6:46:27 PM1 votes

They are gonna deny farm if they are any good and you jsut have to deal with it, farm melee minion when they reach too far or farm with Q (or EW). You have to really judge whats more important farm or HP (laning exp) since if you go for farm you will trade your health for it, but if you dont go for farm you wont have any gold. but luckily when youre level 4 as Wukong you can trade about any ranged champion because of the burst potential he has with a level 2 E in combination of W to avoid extended damage. Level 6 is a big power point, to sum things up.. farm as much as you can and wait til level 4 to trade, and level 6 to actually go for the kill.

Note: bushes are your best friend, use it.

kasfas2/8/2016, 7:14:04 PM1 votes

Farm under tower, get pots, don't die. That's the sad reality of going up against a ranged top laner.

Use all ranged abilities to farm, and don't engage unless your jungler is ganking for you.

Only Play Darius2/9/2016, 12:26:26 AM1 votes

Against AD, starting item 1029 into item 3047 helps a great deal, armor and AA reduction mitigates damage alongside movespeed to help close the gap. Similar results for item 3111 against AP champs. Grasp of the undying helps a lot against ranged champs, as it gets charged from ranged harass and does more damage when you build HP and ranged champs have no scaling MR.

I know this might be hard, but focus on getting every last hit. Early game don't be afraid to use abilities to grab CS out of reach. Learning to maximize CS under tower will help tremendously. On even CS, most melees will outstat ranged champs by level 7-8 and will take control of the lane without trouble.

Then comes how to spend that CS. Boots are always a must, and item 2003 are very useful if you are getting zoned hard. Rush items that mix offense with defense, you want to survive harass but you also want to do damage to scare them off. item 3044 is fantastic as it gives HP, AD, and speedboost to help close gaps. item 3155 is good against AP champs. Then build into items like item 3078 item 3071 item 3025 item 3053 that give you mixed stats.

As far as the specific matchups are concerned, it's going to be a struggle. Darius MonkeyKing have weak early games. Stay positive though, do your best to not feed kills and you have a chance to win teamfights. Wukong is a good team fighter and has a strong late game, often he loses lane but still wins because of his roams. Darius is a bit tougher but he can work as a front line for his team. If all is lost, building straight tank and staying under turret all game is better than trying to win lane and feeding your opponent, and makes your team more willing to carry you.

Most of the champions you mentioned are major problems in general so you aren't the only one. Ryze Graves are getting nerfs. Teemo's entire gimmick is to shutdown melee toplaners with no skill and no counterplay, he's shit otherwise so if you don't let him tilt you then you have a good chance of winning the macro game. Kennen is poor design and too much of a lane bully for how game changing his ult is late game. I can't really give you advice on how to beat him toplane so you should just ban him if he gets popular.

If all else fails, try out Irelia Jax Fiora Yasuo as they are designed to stomp ranged champions in lane.

Good luck

warpenguin5552/8/2016, 5:08:43 PM1 votes

Bump because I want to know too

TwinkiePro2/9/2016, 12:49:47 AM1 votes

Hold back by tower and farm there. Wu and Uncle DarDar are both entirely capable of farming under it. wait for ganks, if they do. Only press if you have an advantage, such as pulling them under or if they are low mana and you can get a good spell rotation off. Play safe and like a bitch :3

FurretHasAGlock2/8/2016, 5:17:05 PM1 votes

To defeat top laners are darius, wait for them to try to harass you. You can then walk forward during attack animation to use your E, pull them in, W so they cannot escape, then YOU are in control instead of them. This allows you to harass and gain dominance as darius. I THINK i know how 2 wukong, but I never play him. Use your decoy DURING OR AFTER you see the projectile/attack animation, then you can use your E to dash at them, hit them, and force them to back off, while you may take damage from this, you can get stormraiders surge to stop this, or use thunderlords to add to your burst. Darius is broken, and everybody knows it. Use it to your advantage. As wukong, you can roam, and just focus on CSing.

Dreadlocks2/8/2016, 5:18:30 PM1 votes

Tell me what to do because I'm kind of sick of it, faced** Ryze**, Graves, Kennen and** Teemo **and really not feeling the whole ranged top thing right now

Have been popular top lane picks for quite some time. Wukong should do pretty well vs all those except maybe Graves.

Goatfish2/8/2016, 5:19:42 PM1 votes

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