Possible solution to Azir and Rylai's is to make his soldiers autoattacks instead of spells

Photos of Ghosts··5 votes·868 views

Yes, he could still do that with Frozen Mallet, but that's not an item he'd want stat-wise, right? And regarding Bork abuse - if you make it only apply onhits to first target, it becomes much less effective. Did you test that, Riot? You might want to give it a shot.

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Leeerzeichen3 votes

I would say that lichbane would be a much bigger problem.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Well, think about it. It'd apply to just one target, and only after spell casts. The movespeed from it would just replace the one from Luden's since he wouldn't gain anything from the passive anymore. Eh.

warpenguin5551 votes

wait people actually buy ludens on him? really?

Stars Shaper2 votes

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Azir Coo coo modafaka

Also what the hel is this? --->item 3632

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Nexus siege I'd guess

Crazy Chatter2 votes

Azir takes skill to do well with. Also doing that would basically take away the control mage part of him and allow him to abuse assassin items like lich bane. He'd basically do 10x more damage than he does now.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Why should a lategame dps / lane bully have also a control mage part? And regarding Lich Bane, how can you be sure it'd be that much worse?

warpenguin5551 votes

that would be even more broken

YurÌ on Ice1 votes

You want to nerf a champion with 41% winrate? lol

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

I want to make him more balanceable, less influencing the perceived power of Rylai's (if it got nerfed it'd be a huge hit to battlemages and Mordekaiser in particular) and able to use the AP/AS items intended for Kayle, Teemo, TF etc.

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

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I want to make him more balanceable, less influencing the perceived power of Rylai's (if it got nerfed it'd be a huge hit to battlemages and Mordekaiser in particular) and able to use the AP/AS items intended for Kayle, Teemo, TF etc.

That's not a good enough reason to not nerf the item.

It's horrendously overtuned. And "battlemages" wouldn't stop buying it just because it got a stat nerf, The point of nerfing it is so people who don't specifically prioritize it (or that many prioritize in a niche circumstance) don't just get to build it because it's so fuckin stat efficient theres no reason not to.

YurÌ on Ice1 votes

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I want to make him more balanceable, less influencing the perceived power of Rylai's (if it got nerfed it'd be a huge hit to battlemages and Mordekaiser in particular) and able to use the AP/AS items intended for Kayle, Teemo, TF etc.

so you want to give him on-hit in his soldiers so he proccs the passive from lichbane + nashors + gunblade + a bunch of other items and call it balancable?

He's hardly balanced, he's a trash/trollpick right now. A nerf to his core item is going to break his old 33% winrate record, to say the least.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Gunblade has no on hit lol. And he's a DPS mage, he's supposed to build those items. Yes, he would be balanceable, since he wouldn't have so much general utility anymore but just his ult for self-peel.

YurÌ on Ice1 votes

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Gunblade has no on hit lol. And he's a DPS mage, he's supposed to build those items. Yes, he would be balanceable, since he wouldn't have so much general utility anymore but just his ult for self-peel.

So in other words nerf the 41% winrate champ some more?

Ok, where else do we compensate him?

And I meant the revolver, not the gublade

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

Or just nerf rylais cuz that item's broken as shit with no downsides.

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